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Why Tanaka Will be a Dodger

Because they have the money.  That’s why.

Actually they do, but the biggest reason is that we don’t really know if the Dodgers will be able to re-sign Kershaw.  I mean, they haven’t yet.

Tanaka doesn’t cost them draft picks or players – just cash!

They have 6 – count ‘em, six solid starters for next year – Kershaw, Greinke, Ryu, Haren, Billingsley, Beckett, but if Kershaw doesn’t stay long-term – and that is a REAL possibility, the Tanaka would be a welcome edition.

Here’s another reason: If Bills, Haren and Beckett are healthy, there will be a market for all of them next year.  The Dodgers can then re-stock the farm with prospects for a couple of them.

Prediction:  Tanaka will be a Dodger – 7 years/$140 million.  Book ‘em, Dano!


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60 Responses to “Why Tanaka Will be a Dodger”

  1. Badger says:

    Agree with all of that. LA makes sense for cultural reasons too. I would also think Tanaka would prefer a Pacific Rim location. Make a strong bid and we’ll see.

  2. Bobby says:

    Agree with your reasons. We have cash, it won’t cost us kids, cultural/marketing reasons, Kersh might decide to secede along with texas from the Union.

    Can’t wait till it happens!

  3. grumpy3b says:

    agreed, with some reservations due to Tanaka’s workload.

    Remember Hershiser’s 1988 workload and post-season pitch count complete with similar relief appearance after a lights-out start? I suspect that workload Tanaka is going to be maybe the most “probed” pitcher (think Cartman’s first SP probing level) in MLB history during his pre-signing physical. No sure thing even with ever test known, but the Dodgers have one of the best arm-guys in Colletti’s “Attraché” used to store his secrets. I’m suspicious enough to wonder if the $7.7M/yr offer to stay was window dressing to put some GM’s off the arm issue scent as a matter of courtesy to Tanaka to help his value via implied value due to the offer.

    But the real question is can and will Tanaka grow a “Yoder” beard to match the weak growth by Kershaw and Howell? If so then the Dodgers can lay claim to the all-time “Yoder Rotation” and throw in Wilson’s facial merkin and you have the rouge Yoder too…

  4. Gonzo says:

    Agree 100% Mark. You forgot to mention that Greinke can opt out after the ’15 season. That possibly leaves the top two rotation spots open in a span of two years. Like Badger would say, Yoiks!

    The question, is what the Dodgers will do in July if Kershaw doesn’t resign?

  5. Badger says:

    I wonder if anyone has asked Kershaw’s wife where she would prefer to live. I tried to move a Wisconsin girl to Napa – it lasted 3 years and she wanted to go back to the family in the frozen north. NW Wisconsin over Napa Valley? If the wife wants to go home to daddy, the family goes home to daddy.

    I would surmise that Tanaka already has some cities picked out. Seattle makes sense. San Francisco could be a fit. Gnu Yourk of course, but LA has a lot going for it. It’s the only place that can seat 56,000 and the stadium would fill up when he pitched there. The media is already in place, the Japanese community is large and ready to embrace him, it’s on the Pacific Coast. Make the bid Jed.

  6. Gonzo says:

    From what I have read, all teams can talk to him. When Tanaka chooses his team, the team will then send the 20 million to Rakuten.

  7. Bobbie17 says:

    The trouble with Tanaka is that this free agency stuff keeps our prospects off the big league team. Maybe they aren’t that good anyway. If the Dodgers get Tanaka, this will be an indication of what they think of Lee, etc. Or what they think their chances are of keeping Kershaw. Neither one a good sign.

  8. Gonzo says:

    I don’t necessarily think that B17. Tanaka is just 3-4 years older than our prospects and has pitched at a higher level than any of them. If both Kershaw and Greinke bolt who is the team left with? Ryu and who? Do you trust billingsly and Haren? I don’t. Beckett is gone after this year as well as Haren opening the 5th slot for one of the youngins if Tanaka is signed. You possibly go from a dominant staff to one with a lot of question marks. If I were Ned, it’d be Tanaka or bust. If Kershaw and Greinke stayed Tanaka is signed, you have the best 1-4 in the majors for years to come, not to mention the staff will be young. The only young pitcher I consider untouchable is Julio Urias. Remember that name folks.

    If this happens then the Dodgers can trade the young pitching to fill other needs.

  9. Badger says:

    This year will determine if Greinke stays. He’s getting paid plenty so likely he won’t find a better deal. I think the question will simply be – how does he like pitching in LA? I would think he would love it but I don’t know that. Same with Kershaw I suppose. If he and his wife like Southern California, why not stay and win a few championships there? Can the Dodgers afford everybody? Yeah, probably. Will they?

  10. Roger Dodger says:

    Agree with almost all the thought posted today. Tanaka needs to come to LA — that solves the pitching problem of 4 to 5 key starters. And, lets the higher pitching prospects get a bit more experience and development.

    I do not think that Lee or others on the farm, come up and become Kershaw II the first or even the second season. Signing Tanaka helps them in development and even then in a trade move.

    I see trading for a young stud 1b toward the end of the 2014 season to start backing up AGon in 2015 and then maybe very key in 2015.

    Same in catching.

    Things are looking good for 2014.

  11. Quasimodo says:

    Having a couple computer probs. Just here to say hello and bookmark my favorite site.

  12. Brooklyn Dodger says:

    Last thing I would worry about is that a Tanaka signing keeps one of our younger prospects off the big league team. Just consider Tanaka a young, high paid prospect. After all, he’s just 25. Besides, prospects serve two purposes. They can be used to fill holes on the big league team, or they can be used to acquire more experienced big league players to to fill those or other holes.

    I hope you’re right Mark, and that Tanaka signs with the Dodgers. It makes perfect sense that he would. The Dodgers are located on the Pacific Rim and they definitely have money. The one thing I worry about is the Yankees desperation to obtain a quality starting pitcher for their pitching poor team, and whether such desperation would drive them to make a bid for Tanaka beyond which even the Dodgers would not want to go. But I’m probably just suffering from paranoia. I suspect that promotional and marketing opportunities in the U.S. and Japan could actually make a Tanaka deal profitable for the Dodgers, especially in the long run. And if it led to a Dodger World Championship, that’s just more dollars in the Dodgers’ coffers. And such a signing might be all the Dodgers need to pass the 4 million attendance mark this year and beyond.

    As for Kershaw, I suspect that his best deal probably lies with the Dodgers. Maybe while the Dodgers are talking to Casey Close about Tanaka they’ll also be discussing Kershaw at the same time.

    As for Billingsley, Beckett and Haren, I’m not sure the Dodgers could get an awful lot for any of them, unless it was at the trading deadline this year, and even that’s not likely. Beckett is in the final year of his contract and will be a free agent after the season, Bills won’t be back until probably June, at which point he may best slot into the already crowded bullpen. The Dodgers have a $14 million option or a $3 million buyout on him after this season. Haren has a $10 million salary this year with a $10 million vesting option if he reaches 180 innings(which I doubt he will reach). So it’s very possible that all three pitchers could be gone after this year, and that they would not fetch all that much on the trade market. I could be wrong, but maybe I’m not.

  13. Roger Dodger says:

    Brooklyn — I really disagree with you on Tanaka — he is much more than a highly paid prospect.

    NO Dodger minor leaguer or prospect now — could even match him in what he has done in Japan or might in 2014 for US/Canada team.

    If you think Lee or another Dodger prospect can walk into Dodger Stadium or any MLB city and have his stuff this season — I have a bridge in Brooklyn I would sell you.

    The key here is — big money for not having to develop some 18 (high school) or 22 (college) year old/s in the minors for 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 years and then hope they make the majors — then it usually takes 2 or 3 seasons in the majors to learn to pitch there.

    Of course, there is always the change from Japan to US/Canada baseball, in that the ball is a bit different in size (I believe) and the game is more hit and run and speed in Japan as opposed to here. But guys like Darvish and Nomo and others made it big time. I think he will as well. Only time can tell.

    The Dodgers need Lee and others on the farm — because some of the other Dodger starters might leave after next season or the next – and then Lee and other might be ready.

    In the end, if Tanaka does not come here — I do not go for Price and give up more than 1 key prospect — the Dodgers still have 4 starters and several others for the #5 guy. And if I remember the schedule for 2014 — a 5th starter might not be need for several weeks.

    Dodgers play down under for a pair. Then not till April 1 & 2, day off, 3 games and a day off, 2 games, and a day off, 3 games and a day off — that is April 14 —– then it really starts with 13 straight days; that will need 5 guys in a row twice.

  14. Anonymous says:

    I have said before on this site that I would love to see the Dodgers sign Tanaka. It does not cost us a player. I am still worried about Kershaw. However, if he goes during the season, we should get a lot in return.

  15. Idaho al says:

    The Anonymous is Idaho al.

  16. Quasimodo says:

    If Tanaka’s choice is influenced by location then it would also seem likely he’d choose a team who is most popular with the Japanese. Hawaii’s very big on Giants and thus that probably translates to Japan. If you spent much time in Hawaii then you’d know that only makes sense. But at any rate, we’re only guessing how the sweepstakes will play out. I really doubt the Dodgers are as hot on Tanaka as many would like to think. I also doubt Kershaw or Greinke are in the mix to vacate LA. If Tanaka does sign with the Dodgers, cool. If not, also cool.

  17. Watford Dodger says:

    I tend to agree with you on Tanaka Quas – I know Ned’s trying to keep a poker face but I’m not getting any vibes that we are in for him. I think we are happy with what we have. A good utility guy for the bench and we are done I reckon. As a fan I would love to see him or Price in Blue but don’t think we are gonna do it. I don’t see us trading away any prospects.
    Hope you are feeling better now.

  18. Badger says:

    We pick 23rd. I’d give that, Pederson and Lee for Price. That’s cheaper than Tanaka.

    I agree with LL – the Tanaka thing is getting old. Sign him, don’t sign him, our season still rides on Hanley and Kemp playing all year.

  19. Bobby says:

    Badger, the pick, Lee, and Pederson for Price is NOT cheaper than Tanaka.

    I’ll bet you anything that Price’s next contract (next year), is bigger than the contract Tanaka winds up receiving.

    Price is MLB proven, a Cy Young winner, and a leftie. He will and should get a bigger deal than Tanaka, and if we trade for him, we have to give him that deal, IN ADDITION to losing Pederson, Lee, and 23rd pick.

    For that reason, I prefer Tanaka.

    • Badger says:

      You may be right about that Bobby.

      Tanaka will cost at least $120 million. He’s probably worth it.

      The reason I would do that trade is because Price isn’t a free agent until 2016. True, arbitration will cost plenty, but not $20 million a year. Tampa wanted to trade him to avoid the $4 million deferred payment he is owed. I doubt they want to keep him through a tough arb process. Price is 29 next year. The time to do this is now. Once he gets past 30, you know the odds of him earning the money goes down.

      Having said that, we don’t have the prospects to do this. It might could be done with what we got, and MTBNL (money to be named later) .

  20. Quasimodo says:

    Thanks Watford, Can’t say this made me feel bad. A little scary, perhaps, but not painful. This time it wasn’t a massive stroke, so I saw no real reason to let the hospital admit me. Just one side of my face doesn’t work and its funny looking in the mirror testing to see if I’m making any progress. I am not as of yet. But alas! I’m used to looking silly.

  21. Brooklyn Dodger says:


    You totally misunderstood me. In no way was I comparing Tanaka to our prospects, except in the fact that he’s YOUNG. Consequently, anyone who wants the Dodgers to stay away from him for fear that he’s blocking a young prospect, needs to consider that Tanaka is just as or nearly as young as our prospects.

    But I am thinking of buying that bridge in Brooklyn (SMILE!!!).

  22. Mark_Timmons says:

    I thought they named that bridge after you.

  23. Bob says:

    I have heard it said that a team of players with 2 stars and the rest of the starters all having a WAR of 2.0 could possibly win the World Series.

    What about a team that averages a WAR of 2.0 for all 25 players?

    Here is a list of the current Dodgers team and how they could have a team with an average WAR of 2.0 in 2014. The following list shows their 2013 WAR and some subjectively made up WAR numbers for 2014 solely intended to cause both the group of pitchers and the group of position players to each have an average WAR of 2.0. No Sean, I am not making any projections.

    Kershaw 7.8, 6.8
    Greinke 3.9, 3.5
    Ryu 3.3, 3.0
    Haren -0-, -0-
    Beckett/Billingsly (-0.6), -0-
    Average – Starters 2.88, 2.85

    Jensen 2.6, 3.0
    Wilson 0.6, 2.0
    Howell 1.6, 1.5
    Rodriquez 1.5, 1.5
    Wright 0.9, 1.0
    Perez (-0.3), 1.0
    League (-1.4), 1.0
    Average – Relievers 0.79, 1.57
    Average for Pitchers 1.32, 2.00

    Ellis 2.3, 2.0
    Federowicz 0.3, 0.5

    Gonzalez 4.0, 4.0
    Guerrro N/A, 1.0
    Rameriz 5.4, 4.5
    Uribe 4.1, 3.0
    Gordon (-0.1), -0-
    Sellers (-0.4), -0-

    Crawford 1.7, 1.5
    Kemp 0.5, 3.0
    Puig 5.0, 3.0
    Ethier 2.7, 2.5
    Van Slyke 0.9. 1.0
    Average for Position Players 2.0, 2.0

    I believe that these WAR numbers are very achievable during 2014 and they provide a lot of hope to me regarding the new season. Of course there could be more injuries and at least one sophomore slump, but some players could also have a breakout year and the team could add some additional players.

    With this current core group of players plus Tanaka, and 2 very good bench players a 2014 World Series win does look very promising. Ok Ned, the team appears to be too close to winning it all to not spend just a little more money during 2014.

  24. Rob says:

    Mark was right about Puig. Arrested for reckless driving in Florida, what an idiot!

  25. Anonymous says:

    Unless he was drunk that’s not a big deal. What guy doesn’t want to drive a car fast.

  26. Badger says:

    110 on Alligator Alley in broad daylight. Meh.

    That’s 2.

    Interesting way of looking at WAR Bob. Our starters should easily average higher than 3 so I could see this team accomplishing your goal.

  27. Brooklyn Dodger says:

    Well, at least he cooperated with the arresting officers. Could have been worse. Could have killed himself and others. Definitely something to be concerned about. If the lesson starts to sink in this could be a blessing is disguise. If it doesn’t, then it’s something to be concerned about.

    Until it’s reported otherwise, I’ll assume he wasn’t drunk. But it’s still a “big deal” even if he wasn’t drunk. Intoxication would have made a bad situation even worse, but driving at that speed, no matter what the circumstances, is a BIG DEAL.

    And I trust that the Dodgers will see this as a big deal, and do a lot more than just talk to him.

  28. Anonymous says:

    Brooklyn to be honest 110 is not that fast. Swerving in and out of traffic would be bad but those roads apparently are notorious for speeding due to there long straight aways. Just a younge guy trying out his car. First thing I did when I got my new truck was see what it could do. To bad the governor kicks in at 90. I gotta get that thing removed. From what we hear we know he’s pretty immature but name one millionaire his age ( other then Taylor swift ) that isn’t.

    • Badger says:

      Agree. And that road is straight for miles wth no intersections. It was 9:30 in the morning. I’m thinking this in and of itself is no big deal. But it is his second offense. That is what makes it noteworthy.

  29. Anonymous says:

    Badger actually I think this is his third. Last month charges were dropped and if I recall last spring he had some sort of violation. The kid has a need for speed and can’t drive 55. That doesn’t make him a bad guy. We all have thoughts and fears but I remain confident he will eventually mature and be a somewhat model citizen. I personally believe he is just adapting to fame, money, and most of all the good old USA.

  30. Brooklyn Dodger says:

    Actually it was his second offense. The charges dropped in November were for the April violation.

    Sorry, but I can’t take 110 as lightly as you guys. And less so since he was doing 97 in a 50 mph zone in April. An accident in case you don’t know, is something that happens that you didn’t expect to happen. And going 110 increases the odds that something unexpected will happen. Granted he’s young, and immature. And hopefully he gets advice that gives him a chance to get older and more mature.

  31. Anonymous says:

    Ok Brooklyn I’m fine with that. The law is the law and we should all respect it no matter how much money we make or how younge we are . Laws and rules are there for a reason and were written in blood so ok you win.

  32. Roger Dodger says:

    Seems like this young kid wants to have a good time — and is not respecting others . . . in that he could have had an accident or something.

    Most hope that it wears off and he gets back to some centering . . . but maybe it goes the other way and become more of a habit.

    But at some point his agent and or the club needs to protect him become he is an expensive investment and the hope of a great player. But if he explodes, no one wins.

  33. Bob says:

    “About 85 percent of traffic whizzes by at 84 mph – 14 mph over the speed limit, according to a recent study. Troopers routinely clock drivers exceeding 90 mph.”

    Rumored speed traps at 82mph

    One method of thinning out the overcrowded outfield is to let Puig start the year at Albuquerque. However, New Mexico does have a maximum speed limit of 75 mph.

    Puig may have not yet have learned that “Freedom” does not mean that you can do what ever you want.

  34. Quasimodo says:

    Actually that is exactly what freedom means. But your point IS completely valid,

  35. Watford Dodger says:

    Hopefully he was down there checking out his new surroundings for when Ned trades him for Stanton.

  36. Idaho al says:

    Going 110 MPH is stupid, stupid, stupid!!!! It is one thing to lose your own life doing something stupid, but another to take somebody else with you, who just happened to be in the wrong spot at the wrong time. To me there is no excuse for this kind of behavior. Being young is not an excuse. I taught Driver Education for 39 years. This young man needs to be brought back to earth quickly. Bobby Bowden, retired Florida State football coach, just lost his grandson in a car accident. If you saw a picture of the wrecked car, you wonder how one guy got out a live.

  37. Badger says:

    Has anyone driven that road? I have and it’s a long stretch of nothing. I’m betting people drive 100 on that thing routinely. I’m also betting his car can probably do 150. He could have done that if he wanted to. Why do we have cars that do 150 anyway? If it was truly about safety there would be governors that kept vehicles from going that fast. Obviously it’s about revenue. That’s an expensive ticket. People that drive cars like that can afford it. Cops look for people in cars like that. Write a couple of those tickets and spend the rest of the morning at the donut shop.

    Trading him for Stanton again are we?

  38. Idaho al says:

    Another thing. With the signings of Perez and Wright, where does that leave Withrow, Domingeuz, and the other young pitchers. The dodger youngsters get to go back to the minor league one more time. Colletti just is not willing to give them a chance. I would take Withrow and Doningeuz over Perez and Wright any day of the year. What about getting younger this year? These signings make no sense to me. What good does it do to build up our farm, and then never give them a chance to play. I am not sure about Colletti. I have said that before.

    • Badger says:

      Most of our prospects are unproven al. This is a team being built to win a championship. Until that goal is accomplished, we can expect more of the same. Frankly I thought, with the huge lead we had, it was the perfect time to give Lee a couple of opportunities. Same with Dominguez. The Dodgers are making their motives clear. It’s about options and it’s about winning now.

      Withrow and Paco have proven they belongs. All our other prospects appear to be trade pieces, or inserts for the post championship years.

  39. Badger says:

    A guy stuck his head into a barbershop and asked, ‘How long before I can get a haircut?

    The barber looked around the shop full of customers and said, ‘About 2 hours.’ The guy left but did not return that day.

    A few days later, the same guy stuck his head in the door and asked, ‘How long before I can get a haircut?’ The barber looked around at the shop and said, ‘About 3 hours.’ The guy left and again, did not return that day.

    A week later, the same guy stuck his head in the shop and asked, ‘How long before I can get a haircut? The barber looked around the shop and said, ‘About an hour and a half.’ The guy left.

    The barber turned to his friend and said, ‘Hey, Bob, do me a favor follow him and see where he goes. He keeps asking how long he has to wait for a haircut, but he never comes back later.

    A little while later, Bob returned to the shop, laughing hysterically.

    The barber asked, ‘So, where does he go when he leaves?’

    Bob looked up, wiped the tears from his eyes and said,

    ‘Your house! ‘

  40. Brooklyn Dodger says:

    Anonymous, this is not a matter of winning and losing. It’s simply my opinion that excessive speeds are inherently dangerous, no matter at what location they take place. And I’ll admit that I myself don’t exactly follow speed limits. When driving on an interstate I often go about 10 mph over the limit. So when I was driving through Texas, where some of the interstates outside of city limits have speed limits up to 80 mph (at least the last time I was there in 2009) I pretty much kept my speed at up to 90 mph. And let’s admit it, it doesn’t take much additional pressure on the accelerator to attain very high speeds, often without immediately realizing how fast you’re going.

    Badger, Alligator Alley may be a “long stretch of nothing”, but driving at very high speeds in that area apparently does result in accidents, as per these quotes taken from one of the linked articles in Bob’s post above.

    “The goal: to save lives. Alligator Alley – which carries Interstate 75 through the Everglades – is prone to drivers who exceed the speed limit with its long, wide open stretches. It’s also prone to deadly, speed-related crashes.”

    “This is the second major effort to address safety along Alligator Alley in the last 10 years. After a sharp rise in the number of fatal crashes involving cars plunging into canals along the interstate, the state spent $4 million on cable barriers with impact-activated strobe lights from the Broward-Collier line to the Naples toll plaza. Officials say the barriers are doing what they were intended to do. But they don’t have a perfect record and there have been isolated instances when vehicles have soared over the barrier without even touching it. From January through early August 2011, officials said the barriers stopped vehicles 13 out of 14 times. In the one instance, five people were killed when a vehicle crashed through the barriers.”

    And I agree, the ability of cars to reach obscene limits like 150 is insane.

    I don’t think Colletti’s pen moves were directed against his mistrust of Withrow, Dominguez, or any young pitcher. The deals were cheap, and give the Dodgers a significant amount of depth in the pen, and work as a hedge against injuries. Dominguez missed a lot of time last year due to his quad injury, and is probably slated to open the season in the minors. Withrow earned his stripes in 2013 and deserves to open the season in LA. But I don’t think it would be a calamity if the Dodgers utilized one of his options, and sent sent him down to begin the season. And there is also a question as to how effective League will be. He might be very effective, and he might gives us more of the same. If it’s more of the same, I don’t think the Dodgers will hesitate to eat the remainder of his contract if they think it’s the difference between a championship or not. And as much as they deny it, I am not convinced that there aren’t trade possibilities that involve the bullpen excess (if there is such a thing). And quite frankly, I’m encouraged that the Dodgers bullpen depth will stretch down to the minor leagues with big league capable relievers at the ready to be called up if the need arises. And of course, there’s also Bills returning in June and Beckett, both potential candidates for the pen or involvement in a trade.

    And by the way, don’t put all of this on Colletti. I can’t believe that Stan Kasten and others in the Dodgers organization aren’t on board with this.

    And I agree that “freedom” probably does mean that you can do whatever you want, at least by definition (I’m too laze now to look it up). But that doesn’t mean that there aren’t limits on freedom to protect everyone else’s freedom to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, which are all jeopardized when someone uses their freedom irresponsibly. So there is no freedom to drive recklessly, and freedom of speech does not give anyone the right to yell fire in a movie theater.

  41. jerry says:

    i have heard if a minor league play stay,s in the minors ..he still make a good living…is that that why you hear he been in the minor for 10 yrs..

  42. Pete M. says:

    Thank God no DUI… I’ve gotta keep my fingers crossed that he will mature soon, or do they put the hammer down and possibly start him at AAA??? The latter wouldnt upset me at all…
    Idaho Al, couldnt agree more with your take on the youngsters. I sure as hell dont want to see them break out in another uniform, which I think we’ve begun to see with Eovaldi in Boston..

  43. Pete M. says:

    I remember two minor leaguers who seemed to prefer AAA. Johnny Werhas for the Dodgers who was amazing to watch hit in the PCL. For sure Bo Belinsky preffered playing PCL in Hawaii and hustling pool and women… The boy could pitch too with a no-no for the MLB Angels I think it was…

  44. Brooklyn Dodger says:

    Mark, a couple of hours ago I submitted a long post, and it didn’t appear (and too long for me to re-create). I hoped at the time that maybe there was a delay, and that I’d see it later. Not the case up to this point. It should have appeared just below Badger’s 7:22 am post. Anything showing up on your end that didn’t post to this page?

  45. Quasimodo says:

    2014! I never thought the world would last this long let alone my life. Should of taken better care of myself. Marriage engagements, speeding tickets, reviews of past players or players of little significance-Damn! Three months more of this boring time of year, and then I’ll complain it went too fast.

  46. Michael says:

    I’d like to give Yasiel a little credit for
    A. Wasn’t drinking
    B. Wasn’t smoking a fat one
    C. No loaded guns
    Not a typical NBA/NFL like headliner

  47. Mark_Timmons says:

    Brooklyn – it was stuck in Spam. Not sure why?

  48. Brooklyn Dodger says:

    Probably because that’s where I belong.

  49. Bob says:

    With the Hot Stove over and baseball news getting cold this article about another type of dodger should get the blood of a few people boiling.

  50. Badger says:

    Yeah, well, South Dakota has something going for it.

    You sure you want to talk about U.S. wealth division here Bob? I’ve been screaming about it for years, but, most are too busy chasing their own tails to listen. It’s done now. The middle class is virtually gone. Oh well, it was great while it lasted. Many of the old timers in here can remember it. I don’t know what happens now, but, I am too damn tired to keep fighting. People just don’t seem realize what is best for them. So now that what those of us who saw this coming have been saying for years didn’t get done, the game plan is simple….. all you need to do to beat the .01% who make all the rules, just become one of them. Good luck with that. If you are the 1 in 700 who is living off family money in trust funds, you don’t need to go off shore anymore. Go to South Dakota.

  51. Badger says:

    While on the subject, just read an interesting Pay Ratio – CEO to Average Worker chart:

    Japan 11-1
    Germany 12-1
    Canada 20-1
    UK 22-1
    Mexico 47-1

    U.S. 475-1

    There was a time when it was the same here in the U.S.. But, like I said, those days are long gone.

  52. Bobbie17 says:

    It will take another 25 years and a whole lot more government intervention to get the middle class back where it belongs. Minimum wage hikes are just a small, insignificant step. Where the free market (with enforced labor laws) was allowed to work, the middle class thrived. The free market stopped working long ago, in spite of what tea partiers may say. Now, only the government can change things, but politics have gotten in the way. Stay tuned.

  53. Badger says:

    Good take B17. I’m a free market guy in principle but the market and those who drive it are like Puig in that Mercedes. You got to have limits or the car goes off the cliff. Put people to work with a living wage, stop waging expensive wars, bring back Glass- Steagal, overturn Citizens United, let everybody vote and our problems are solved by the time the Dodgers lift that trophy next Fall n

    • Bob says:

      There was a time when the Invisible Hand that Adam Smith spoke about was the Left Hand of Morality and the Right Hand of Judeo-Christian Ethics, neither one of which really exist in the souls of a majority of the people anymore. As a result you can blame those two groups of people when the Federal Government steps in to take their place in order to prevent widespread anarchy.

  54. Badger says:


    Go Ducks.

  55. Roger Dodger says:

    Just read the PLASCHKE article on Puig.

    Dodgers — keep all 4 outfielders; no trading away one for now. It might be Puig as the one out (or, out for awhile) — with a serious accident to himself, jail time, psyche time (out), release be the club.

    He is not 16 years old, but many coming from Cuba with what ever back ground — he is acting like a 16 year old.

    I really do not think he will turn fully around and become a responsible adult in the next week or so. But he could make some baby steps in that direction.

    If I am Ned, I keep all 4 outfielders for now.


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