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Is there a lesson here?

They lost their best player before the season started and he was never a factor.  They have one player over 27 years old.  Their youngsters have never been here before.  They have a coach that has never coached in the big leagues,and he is young and inexperienced, but he’s a motivator and he believes in them.  Yes he believes, but he’s not afraid to get in  their face.  Now they are staring at the possibility of playing for a world championship.

You have probably figured out I am talking about the Pacers.  They lost Danny Granger, who was their unquestioned leader for the season.  David West is the only player over 27 years old.   Frank Vogel is a career-assistant and a very young coach.  But, you can watch these guys grow every game.  They make mistakes and they just comeback like junkyard dogs.  The Pacers didn’t go out and get some journeyman to take Danny Granger’s place – they let their youngsters grow into the roles.

Last night, the old man, David West was sick and had a fever, but gutted it out to get 11 points and 14 rebounds.  It has been fun to watch Paul George and Roy Hibbert grow into superstars and see Lance Stephenson grow from a street thug into whatever he will become (he’s only 22 and has the best skill set on the team).  They are an unlikely crew, but they are in a one-game playoff Monday night for the right to play the Spurs for the NBA Championship.  They are the underdogs – junkyard underdogs!  They just may win it all!

The Los Angeles Dodgers can take a page from the Pacers book.  For the record, I have not thrown in the towel.  There’s still plenty of time, but change is necessary.  The Dodgers need a Manager who can motivate them like Frank Vogel motivates and challenges the Pacers.  Right now, everyone is wondering “will I be the one to blow this game?“  instead of “It’s my game to win!“  It’s a different mindset … one that the Dodgers don’t have.  The fix starts at the top.  The Pacers did that 2-1/2 years ago and it started their run.  Jim O’Brien was a highly respected coach.  Frank Vogel was an assistant.  It turned the ream around overnight.

Other thoughts:

  • Puig is on his way to Colorado (maybe there by now).  He has to play, even if it is in CF.  Let’s see what he can do.
  • Memo to Ned:  Quit getting the old, run-down, over-the-hill players like Uribe, Hairston, Hernandez, Uribe, Ellis (I like him), Punto (love him), Schumaker, Guerrier, League and Moylan.  Do you think the Dodgers would be worse if they had Fed-Ex, Herrera, Castallanos, Pederson, Withrow, Ames and others instead of that bunch?
  • Aaron Miller had a double and triple for Great Lakes last night after his conversion from the mound.
  • Crawford allegedly only had a cramp, not a strain.
  • If Matt Kemp wants to earn respect back, when he is ready to play he has to go on an extended re-hab assignment to AAA to get his stroke back.  He’s killing the team now.  Let’s face it:  he’s not going to hit with much power this year.  He has to adjust and just get on base.  Adrian and Hanley said they both lost power after their shoulder surgeries… Adrian evidently forever!

My Monday Lineup:

  1. Crawford LF
  2. Ellis  2B
  3. Gonzales  1B
  4. Ramirez  SS
  5. Ethier/Van Slyke  RF
  6. Puig  CF
  7. Fed-Ex  C
  8. Uribe  3B


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24 Responses to “Is there a lesson here?”

  1. Badger says:

    Good post Mark. The Pacers are doing things right. They are built to beat Miami. Hope they pull it off.

    We have been talking in here about trying to put together a team that is on the right side of 30. Without PED’s, baseball players seem to be peaking where they did BEFORE the steroid era – at about 27 years old.

    We have all supplied our opinions on what should be done to this team to get it going. New manager? Yeah, maybe a new manager can get guys like Ellis, Punto, Hernandez, Schumaker and Cruz to do things they have never really done before. Maybe a new manager can get the bullpen turned around on a dime. Personally I don’t think so. I agree with those who point a finger at Colletti. He is the guy who put this team together. We could have easily had Bourn and Reynolds on this team, and we get Cruz and Sellers/Schumaker/Punto/Hairston (all the same guy if you ask me)

    (This reminds me of the year DePodesta put together his team of veterans and half that team ended up getting surgery. What’s with the Dodgers and the disabled list?)

    Kemp needs time to heal. It is apparent he will NOT change his approach. With that in mind, a few months of rehab and he might get his power back. While he is out, I would have his eyesight checked. He is back to swinging at pitchers outside the strike zone. With that swing, and no power, he as an out waiting to happen. Ethier? We’re stuck with him, so, we wait until he gets one of his streaks going. Hopefully it’s soon so he has some value at the trade deadline.

    As you know, I figured Puig would start his first game at home. I don’t think it’s a good idea to start him in Colorado, but, you say that’s where it happens, so be it.

    Yeah, I say give the youngsters their shot. None of them are listed in the top 20 on most ML Top Prospect lists, but, we need something to happen.

  2. Quasimodo says:

    I like that lineup, Mark. June will have some energy. Don’t know if it starts today as I find it hard to make judgement of play at Coors field. Just got my 1st sip of coffee. Need to surf a bit and try to catch up on speed about injuries and roster changes. You say Puig is joining the team today, well good. Hope Crawford’s not out for long. I’ll be back.

  3. Mark_Timmons says:

    Just say no to Robinson Cano.

    Wrong side of 30.

    Bit of an attitude, too!

  4. Bball says:

    A little off topic but looking ahead to tomorrow’s game I think league should get the start and nail Quentin right in the ribs. Another brawl, sorry but that’s about the only thing that’s exciting me about this team at the moment.

  5. Badger says:

    Interesting idea.

    Let the bullpen go the first 4 innings and those guys who can only go 5 innings ( half our starters) finish it up.

  6. Mark_Timmons says:

    24 years old – I’d give him $250 million!

    He’s the same as Koufax – Holy!

  7. Mark_Timmons says:

    Great Pacer Article by Bob Kravitz:

    You have to love these guys.

  8. Badger says:

    “24 years old – I’d give him $250 million!

    He’s the same as Koufax – Holy!” Mark Timmons

    So, you are saying that between now and age 30 Kershaw will pitch over 1600 innings, win 129 games, complete 105 games, have 35 shutouts, strike out over 1700.

    Then yeah, give him $250 million!

    but, ummm…. I am thinking maybe he comes up just a tad short on all those numbers, making $250 million a little much.

    Pacers are a good story. Do you have them winning a game 7 in Miami?

  9. Rob says:

    Magill will pitch, AJ to the DL, and Puig is not in Denver= loss!!

  10. Rob says:

    We seem to have the slowest moving front office in baseball. How hard is it to pick up the phone and get a guy from the minors for the call up?

  11. jerry says:

    i have always said people with lots of money are stupid..they have no common since..and most with money has shit on someone to get there.

  12. Dave says:

    The virus is system wide !!! theres a non positive belief within and its rather troublesome !! wheres the roles ? whats the positive standard of understanding im at a stall mentally and that is the problem mentally theres something coming across wrong to alot of guys , belief system is not in place and it is running rampant , is it individual responsibility or getting others to believe in there system , i think the later is more appropriate but yes mark its as if ” well is it my turn to fail today cause its sure goin around ” very very troubling and theres got to be a positive message in all this from the top but then again there the experts in ebb and flow of the process and have been hopefully addressing the positives to gain from within, isnt that how its suppost to work, theyve been doing this for a long time there much wiser than i ? Baseball what a humbling vicious game at times ! Im still a believer of showing a positive msg and selling it to the players ! is it being done and how are the players trust in the msg, theres some negative belief and it starts in believing in the top core msg ! consistency is the key! but did the msg ever have consistency !!!! food for thought im really at a loss for production and belief ! thats troubling ! heck the light switch could come on tomorrow and be functional again who the heck noes damn game is baffling to say the least !

  13. Quasimodo says:

    One good thing about Magill taking the mound is he’s got a more ‘hands on’ experience of throwing at altitude. Looking forward to Dodgers live pregame here shortly. Maybe they’ll tell us if there’s truth in the directions the signs point. Hope it’ll all be fun.

  14. Bobby says:

    Actually AJ to the DL, and Magill takes his spot and starts today.

    I think after this game, Magill back to AAA, and Puig replaces him and comes up tomorrow at home, as Badger requested.

    I am all in for Indi tomorrow, as I went to Fresno St so obviously support Paul George. Im afraid, however, that David Stern can’t have 2 small market teams in his finals, so King James will get his calls tomorrow :(

  15. Roger Dodger says:

    Dodger lineup posted for today really has a major weak spot –

    from Fedex to Ethier, to Cruz, to Shumaker to Magrill to Punto to Uribe.

    Yes, that is 7 slots to finally get to the meat: Gonzales and Van Slyke. Then back to the major weak spot of those 7 players in a row.

  16. Roger Dodger says:

    Interesting, the only player on the AA roster that is also on the 40-man roster is Puig.

    AAA roster has 8 players: Ames, Fife, Guerra, Wall, Withrow, Gordon, Sellers, Castellanos

    A = Rancho Cucamonga has 1 player: Hanely Ramirez (so really no one there).

    Add to those names the DL players: Beckett, Billingsley, Elbert, Tolleson, Ellis, Kemp

    Those are the names on the 40 man roster. That is it, those are your 2013 Los Angeles Dodgers — win or loose . . . until Mr. Puig might come up, then someone has to go off the total roster — who will that be?

  17. Roger Dodger says:

    Last night I tuned into ESPN and the Women’s College World Series and the “epic” game that went 15 innings, 5 and 1/2 hours, and some 550 total pitches. It ended on a close play at third base, and the ump might have missed the call.

    Here is a quick recap . . . watch the final out and see if you were the ump — would you have called the runner out, and it ended the game. Or, saw a tie, and called the runner safe, to have it continue.

  18. Roger Dodger says:

    Taken away for medical help . . . here is the web site for the post above . . . how do you call the last out in the bottom of the 15th . . .

  19. Bobby says:

    From the Dodgers official twitter site:

    #Dodgers today optioned Matt Magill and will recall Yasiel Puig tomorrow.

  20. Mark_Timmons says:

    This shows what a dumbass Ned is. The Dodgers need pitching to win at Coors, right?


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