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This is the time to be BOLD!

This is a little complex, but stay with me people:

  • The Dodgers trade Andre Ethier and Mark Ellis to the Texas Rangers for Mike Olt and Ian Kinsler.
  • The Dodgers trade Chris Capuano and to the Angels for Taylor Lindsey (2B &  Angels #4 Prospect).
  • The Dodgers send Mike Olt, Taylor Lindsey, Yasiel Puig, Josh Wall  and Javy Guerra to the Miami Marlins for Giancarlo Stanton.

Mark Ellis serves as  a caddy for Jurickson Profar and Kinsler is the Dodgers 2B.  Maybe other players have to be included, but it’s going to take a lot to get Stanton and a Cuban like Puig would put butts in seat in Miami.

It know, that’s a lot to pay.  Stanton is a lot to get!

Lineup:

  1. Crawford LF (don’t you dare move him from this spot)
  2. Kinsler  2B
  3. Kemp  CF
  4. Gonzalez  1B
  5. Stanton RF
  6. Ramirez  SS
  7. Cruz  3B
  8. Ellis  C

Print the tickets – the Dodgers are headed to the World Series.

Dodger Notes:

  • Dee Gordon isn’t even hitting his weight and that is pathetic!
  • Does anyone miss James Loney?  Who?
  • The Mariners are close to getting Harang from Colorado – probably trading King Felix for him…

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60 Responses to “This is the time to be BOLD!”

  1. Bobby says:

    Mark, you’re an idiot!!!!

    Joke. This would actually be a fantastic set of moves for us, and I think pretty doable. I don’t know much about this Angel prospect, but I do think Puig would be of extreme interest to Miami.

    Now that you and I and I’m sure others would do this, does anyone think this really could happen? I think Ethier/Kinsler could happen for sure.

    Damn, I was just looking at Stanton’s numbers too. 93hr at age 23 already. Ridiculous power. 6’6, 240 lbs.

  2. Badger says:

    Might work. I can’t imagine anyone else offering more than that.

  3. DodgerDude says:

    Dude,

    That makes perfect sense. The Marlins would HAVE to do that deal. It is win-win-win for everyone!

    Who is the dude snorting?

  4. Quasimodo says:

    Well, there’s 2 in that lineup that were Dodgers for at least a year.

  5. Quasimodo says:

    Yes. I’ll admit I miss Loney and at the same time concede 1B has been vastly upgraded. I’m just one of those that love Dodgers and the outsiders have to wear the uniform before they gain my love. So now I can love AGon too.

  6. DRomo says:

    I think Giancarlo Stanton is a stud, BUT why do we want to give up Puig? Puig might be Stanton with speed and he is already ours!!

    Ellis and Andre for Olt (who is blocked everywhere in the IF now in TX) and Kinsler is a great deal. Look folks, Kinsler is not a game changer BUT his contract is almost a mirror of Andre’s and he has to be the odd man out for Puig to come to LA. The kid is legit! Kinsler will be our 2B for the next 3-4 years. Without this deal the Dodgers are looking for a 2B next offseason.
    SPOILER ALERT; Cano is not leaving the Yankees.

    I’m getting Ned and Stan on the phone….

  7. Joseph Olivas says:

    Puig straight up for Stanton

  8. JC Conway says:

    I like this idea. Kinsler is a great ball player and he can pick up where Ethier has fallen off a bit. Good analysis.

  9. the truth hurts says:

    Last night League reminded me of a guy we used to call………..Broxton

    That is a very scary thought.

  10. Josh says:

    Puig is a once in a lifetime player. Do not trade him

    • Mark_Timmons says:

      …and what is Stanton?

      He\’s practically the same age and has about 100 more MLB homeruns than Puig!

  11. Mark_Timmons says:

    Why would they do that? Proven for unproven. You have to give them a reason to make the trade. No one would do that deal but the Dodgers.

  12. Roger Dodger says:

    OK, thinking like Mark, here is a trade,

    Dodgers get: Stanton and a bag of BP balls.

    Miami gets: Billingsley, Guerra, Lilly, Federowicz, Gordon, Puig, Ethier, and Kershaw; and the Dodgers throw in $350 million.

    Now here is the new Dodger starters:
    Ryu
    Greinke,
    Fife,
    Beckett,
    Capuano

    But we have Stanton.

  13. Mark_Timmons says:

    Yeah, that is realistic…

  14. DRomo says:

    Proven vs unproven is avalid argument. However 6 yrs under teams control vs 3 more years is also a valid one. We would have to overpay (in players) for Stanton. We already have Puig.

    Now lets talk talent alone. Stanton can hit like crazy, but is an average defender by my estimation (what do I know). Puig has a plus arm and has speed and range to be a plus defender. Stanton doesn’t steal bases. Puig can… & does.

    Don’t get me wrong. I would love Stanton in Dodger blue but we have a star in waiting and I just don’t see Stanton as a “need ” of ours.

    But if we are talking about being realistic MARK… This conversation shouldn’t be happening right? Haha.

    Be good fellas.

  15. Mark_Timmons says:

    It should be happening. The Dodgers time is NOW!!

    One more interview:

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the-balance/2013/04/

    My interview starts at about 34:20…

  16. HemmorhoidRage says:

    You’ve got to see Puig thru, not the time to move him. Sorry but that just makes no sense at all. They saw Puig, they liked Puig, they paid big bucks to get Puig, you got to stay with Puig, there is a reason they went at him so hard. Just makes no sense to move him.

  17. Bobby says:

    If Puig develops into a big time player in 3 years, he becomes…….
    Giancarlo Stanton now.

    Why not go with the sure thing?????

  18. Badger says:

    Mark’s point is valid. The Dodgers, as they are currently constructed, have about a three year window. Stanton and Kinsler now and we win it.

    But we can also build for next year and the years after. Right now I would include Puig and Lee in a deal for Stanton. I don’t know about Mark’s deal. Sounds complicated.

    We will know more about this team’s capability when Ramirez gets back.

  19. Bball says:

    Badger did Colorado do better in there trade of Harang?

  20. Roger Dodger says:

    Kemp is interesting to watch over a season.

    At the plate, he looks like the owns the turf.

    When he is hot (hitting eye in shape) he is a beast. Crushing the ball.

    But when he is out of sink, his swing seems out of sink.”

    Many swings are off balance. The rhythm is gone.

    Badger and I mentioned this last season — that is, watching some other teams on TV — even younger players — they get much better rips that many of the Dodger hitters. More natural swings. Remember Shawn Green and his natural swing. He had it.

    Big Mac has his work to do.

    AGon looked great on his HR.

    Cruz has a great glove at 3b this season. Nice. If he could/would only hit.

  21. the truth hurts says:

    It might be our worst nightmare.

    *Kemp- is this something to do with Rihanna? I am being serious…

    http://hollywoodlife.com/2013/04/09/rihanna-parties-matt-kemp-chris-brown-jealous/

    LOVE IS BLIND.

  22. KEN says:

    Kershaw pitching tommorrow. I guess that means the LAD #5 starter is pitching tonight. So now Greinke is the highest paid #5 in the past, current and future history of MLB.

    LOB 7 in 3 innings – CHOKERS

  23. KEN says:

    BOLD = Buy One Line Drive

    LAD Choker Stats

    The LAD have scored 24 runs

    The 3 teams with a BA just below the LAD have scored an average of 44 runs
    The 3 teams with a OBP just below the LAD have scored an average of 45 runs
    The 3 teams with a SLG just below the LAD have scored an average of 35 runs
    The 3 teams with a OPS just below the LAD have scored an average of 41 runs

  24. KEN says:

    So Harang really was not worth very much – a AAA reliever not even on the 40 man roster at age 26

  25. Bball says:

    Ya baby. Maybe that’ll wake em up

  26. Quasimodo says:

    God I love A.J. Ellis

  27. Quasimodo says:

    Great tackle by A.J.

  28. the truth hurts says:

    Pray Greinke is not hurt.

  29. Badger says:

    What just happened?

    • the truth hurts says:

      brawl of the century.

      Greinke hits Quentin, he charges, AJ tackles from behind but Quentin has greinke in his grasp as they fall to the ground, they both drop under the pile and emerge a couple minutes later. Kemp goes ballistic. Greinke looked ok but went straight into the locker room. Kemp/Quentin ejected.

      Drama city!

      Kemps head was nearly hit a couple innings before.

  30. Bball says:

    Vinnie saying suspension for Kemp. Y for yelling?

  31. the truth hurts says:

    oh the irony, padres back in LA Monday, WOW

  32. the truth hurts says:

    hairston ejected as well

  33. Bball says:

    Quas on AJ. Ya he did good but actually he should have been in between Carlos and greinke so they would never collide. He should of been quicker

  34. Quasimodo says:

    Bball, I’d say he got there pretty quick. It’d been nice had he been able to sooner.

  35. Jason says:

    Man I hope Greinke didn’t break his collarbone

  36. Jason says:

    Still not sure why Kemp got ejected.

  37. Bball says:

    Donnie probably ejected him in fear of him doing something stupid.

  38. Jason says:

    I swear Cruz leads the entire league in infield pop-ups

  39. the truth hurts says:

    Vin just said in 2009, Greinke hit Quentin and Quentin had to be restrained….4 years ago….

    Still, Kemp was thrown high and tight too

    who knows…….

  40. the truth hurts says:

    OMG, URIBE, WOWWWWWWWWWWW

  41. Bball says:

    I was gonna say this two days ago but didn’t, well ill say it now. I’m much more comfortable with Uribe then Cruz.

  42. Bball says:

    Ya I said it. On another note the angels look like from a Vinnie translation. Fertilizer

  43. Bobby says:

    Fractured left collarbone for Greinke.

    Great.

  44. the truth hurts says:

    unbelievable, thanks Carlos!

  45. Bball says:

    Don’t freak out. We have plenty of pitching and he will be back for the stretch run

  46. KEN says:

    Time to MLB to suspend players who injury pitchers when they attack them on the mound for the length of the pitcher’s injury.

  47. 1000OaksDave says:

    Jason, you jinxed Grienke. I swear the x-ray would have come up negative but you had to come out and say it. Sort of like an announcer telling everyone that a pitcher is throwing a perfect game. You just don’t do it. Kidding aside, and I know this is no joke, broken collar bone, but its not his throwing shoulder I Hope. Didn’t he move toward his non-throwing side and throw that shoulder into Quentin? It could be though that he was driven into the ground onto his throwing shoulder. Regardless, Pitchers should be taught to never meet an angry, charging batter with force. Ride the energy and/or get out of the way. That was the perfect place for a Ganseki Nage. Look that up guys. That’s the move I would have put on Quentin in that situation.

  48. KEN says:

    Hockey player gets 4 games for an elbow to the head. Where is Mr. Torre and his self professed anti-abuse stance?

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/devils-volchenkov-suspended-4-games-elbow-head-bruins-175816605–nhl.html

  49. KEN says:

    ARTICLE XII—Discipline
    A. Just Cause
    The Parties recognize that a Player may be subjected to disciplinary
    action for just cause by his Club, the Senior Vice President, Standards
    and On-Field Operations or the Commissioner. Therefore, in Grievances
    regarding discipline, the issue to be resolved shall be whether
    there has been just cause for the penalty imposed.
    If discipline imposed upon a Player is determined to be improper by
    reason of a final decision under this Grievance Procedure, the Player
    shall promptly be made whole.
    The term “make whole” means:
    (1) if a fine is found to have been imposed improperly, the fine
    will be promptly repaid;
    (2) any salary loss as a result of an improper suspension will be
    promptly paid;
    (3) in the application of items (1) and (2) above, interest will also
    be paid at the rate per annum set forth in Article XV(L) below; and
    (4) crediting the Player with performance statistics for the purpose
    of determining whether a performance level contained in any
    48
    special covenant to his Uniform Player’s Contract has been met.
    Such credit shall be determined by multiplying the Player’s relevant
    average per game statistic while he was on a Club’s Active List for
    the current championship season by the number of games for which
    the Arbitration Panel determines the Player was improperly suspended
    and adding that product to the Player’s year-end total. Such
    credit shall not be awarded to a Player for such time that his suspension
    covers time the Player is on the Disabled List.
    B. Conduct Detrimental or Prejudicial to Baseball
    Players may be disciplined for just cause for conduct that is materially
    detrimental or materially prejudicial to the best interests of Baseball
    including, but not limited to, engaging in conduct in violation of federal,
    state or local law. The Commissioner and a Club shall not discipline
    a Player for the same act or conduct under this provision. In cases
    of this type, a Club may only discipline a Player, or take other adverse
    action against him, when the Commissioner defers the disciplinary
    decision to the Club.
    C. Notice
    Written notice of discipline of a Player (a fine, or suspension, or both)
    imposed by the Commissioner of Baseball, the Senior Vice President,
    Standards and On-Field Operations, or a Club (except for actions arising
    from participation in the Winter Leagues) and the reason therefore
    shall in every case be given to the Player and the Association.
    With respect to discipline imposed upon a Player by the Senior Vice
    President, Standards and On-Field Operations or the Commissioner,
    the Commissioner shall immediately give to the Association notice by
    mail of fines, and notice by facsimile of suspensions and of appeals
    for hearings.
    D. Discovery
    A Player who is disciplined shall have the right to discover, in timely
    fashion, all documents and evidence adduced during any investigation
    of the charges involved.
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    E. Compliance
    (1) Nothing contained in the Grievance Procedure shall excuse a
    Player from prompt compliance with any discipline imposed upon
    him.
    (2) Club Fines. A fine imposed by a Club pursuant to Regulation
    5 of the Uniform Player’s Contract in excess of $5,000 may not
    be deducted from the Player’s salary until such fine is finally upheld
    in the Grievance Procedure or the time in which to file a Grievance
    has expired.
    (3) Discipline Imposed by the Senior Vice President, Standards
    and On-Field Operations or Commissioner.
    (a) A fine imposed by the Senior Vice President, Standards
    and On-Field Operations or the Commissioner in excess of
    $5,000 may not be deducted from the Player’s salary until such
    fine is finally upheld in the Grievance Procedure or the time in
    which to file a Grievance has expired.
    (b) The Player’s employing Club is authorized, at the request
    of the Senior Vice President, Standards and On-Field Operations,
    or the Commissioner in the case of a fine imposed by the Commissioner,
    to deduct the amount of the fine from the Player’s
    salary and transmit such sum to the Commissioner once the fine
    may be deducted from the Player’s salary.
    (c) The Senior Vice President, Standards and On-Field Operations
    may choose to suspend a Player without pay for: (i) intentionally
    throwing a baseball, equipment or other object at a
    non-uniformed personnel with the intent of causing bodily harm;
    (ii) physically assaulting a fan or member of the media; (iii) physically
    assaulting an umpire in a manner that endangers his health
    or safety; and (iv) making public statements that question the
    integrity of the game, the umpires, the Commissioner and/or
    other Commissioner’s Office personnel. Suspensions without pay
    for such conduct shall be appealable through the procedures of
    Article XI(B) in an expedited manner, and the suspensions shall
    be stayed pending the completion of those procedures.
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    F. Investigations
    Except where circumstances require expeditious handling, the Player
    and the Association shall receive reasonable advance notice of any
    investigatory interview with a Player. Where circumstances requiring
    expeditious handling are present, the Player and the Association shall
    receive as much advance notice as is possible, but in no event shall the
    Association receive less notice than the Player. All parties recognize
    the right of the Player to be represented at such interview by the Association
    and counsel of his choice.

    G. Major League Rules 15 and 16
    The following time limit provisions set forth in Major League Rules 15
    and 16 shall be inapplicable in disciplinary matters:
    (1) the prohibition in Rule 16(a) against reinstatement of a
    Player on the Restricted, Disqualified and Ineligible Lists in the
    period August 1 to October 31, inclusive;
    (2) the prohibition in Rules 15(c)(1) and 16(c) against application
    for reinstatement from the Ineligible List until after the lapse of
    one year from the date of placement on such list; and
    (3) the requirement of Rule 16(a) that the Player’s Club shall be
    entitled to 30 days’ written notice prior to his reinstatement from the
    Disqualified or Ineligible Lists, if application for such reinstatement
    is filed after February 1 of any year.

  50. Brooklyn Dodger says:

    I heard it was Greinke’s left shoulder. Better than his right, but still not good. With Greinke out for who knows how long, it’s time for the offense to pick up. Unlike in the past, the Dodgers have the resources to at least look around for something. But no guarantee they will be successful.

    I’m guessing that for the time being, Greinke will be replaced by Capuano. Not sure that’s the long term solution, but it could be if nothing else materializes, and no one on the farm is deemed ready.

    On the above discussion re: including Puig in a trade for Stanton. I’d do that in a NY, LA or any other city minute. Puig “MIGHT” turn out to be the next Stanton. Stanton already “IS” the next Stanton. And they’re both about the same age. Only difference is that Stanton will cost a lot more money sooner, and I doubt if that’s an issue. Don’t know exactly what Miami would want, but it’s a deal they might think about, given Puig’s Cuban connection. And although he might also turn out to be very good, I’d consider also throwing in our other Cuban, Onelki Garcia.

    • 1000OaksDave says:

      I agree. How about this until such a trade…bring up and showcase Puig while Kemp serves whatever suspension he receives. I’d also bring up Stephen”Don’t call me Barney”Fife to spot start. He did great last year and has increased velocity I hear. I’ve noticed others have talked highly of him her since. Some dude named Reggie shit a brick when I was in Fife’s corner last season(yah dude, I’m calling your ass out)but others here also see his potential.

  51. Beckett_rockett says:

    Next time, on Jackie Robinson Day, the dodgers gotta revenge. should target his head!

  52. Jason says:

    I’ve never seen a pitcher get hurt when someone charged the mound. Naturally, since this is supposed to be “our year” it happens to our $147 million ace 1A.
    I’m betting that Quentin wouldn’t have charged a bigger man like Jansen.
    Which LA pitcher gets ejected/suspended first during the next series with the Padres?

  53. Bball says:

    Just heard on MLB radio Kemp confronted Carlos after the game. I don’t think this is the end of it. Dodgers are pissed. Anyone no how long a fractured collarbone takes to heal

  54. Jason says:

    I think Ryan Mathews missed 4-6 weeks including surgery. I guess that’s good news considering he’s a running back. Hopefully Greinke does not need surgery

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