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Let’s Make a Deal

I want to make a deal.  NOW!  Pull the trigger, Ned!

Here it is a deal I want Ned to make:

  • Dee Gordon
  • Zach Lee
  • Chris Reed
  • Joc Pederson
  • Mark Ellis

to the Mets for:

  • R.A. Dickey
  • Daniel Murphy

Murphy hits left-handed.  This is good!

Now, also sign Greinke!

 

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39 Responses to “Let’s Make a Deal”

  1. Bball says:

    Holy cow. No freakin way I do that. A 38 year old and a mediocre utility guy. I want something to happen too but not that. Easy mark easy

  2. Rob says:

    I like it!!

  3. Joseph Olivas says:

    Wow noooooo giving up to much for a 38 year old & Daniel M. aint that great as well

  4. ken says:

    I would do this deal

    Harang
    Zach Lee
    Chris Reed
    Joc Pederson
    Casty
    Jesmuel Valentin

    For

    R.A. Dickey
    Wilmer Flores (3B) (20)

    They aleady have a Gordon, their #5 Gavin Cecchini

  5. Dave says:

    One question: Who would you rather have, R.A Dickey or David Price? I say overwhelm the Rays with an offer like above but include money and Ethier with the other “pieces” needed to get it done. Then sign Hamilton and Greinke.

  6. Joseph Olivas says:

    I like what Dave said!

  7. Pete M. says:

    Ditto on Dave & Joseph except the Hamilton part…That aint happening. L.A. is rough town to keep it one day at a time… Straw and a few others can attest to that.
    How come they never investigated the Cocaine era in MLB??? ‘We are Family’ Bucs and Shea snow storms???
    Off the subject. Lets start rolling this morning in Nashville.

  8. AnewBlueDay says:

    I am shocked and stunned — that the Dodger have not signed someone or made a deal — it is Tuesday already !!!!

  9. Pete M. says:

    Wilmer Flores…Wasn’t he on ‘That 70′s Show’??? I’ll take Seager and his upside over Flores…
    The 4 yr. deal for Pagan to the Gigantes irrated the kapok out of me. I don’t want them getting Marco S. back… A preety good lead off duo in S.F.

  10. DRomo says:

    Marco Scutaro to play 3B or 2B? Anyone? Just a thought?

    I’m all for getting Dickey, but for the package Mark is suggesting? I don’t think so. Its a little too steep. Zach Lee and Chris Reed? Yikes? Also I am not big on Daniel Murphy.

    I will be absolutley shocked if Dee Gordon is still a Dodger by the end of this week. Also I would not be surprised if Grienke does not sign anywhere this week. Something tells me he waits a little while longer.

  11. Badger says:

    I am all for getting Dickey, but a 38 year old, even a 38 year old Cy winner, is on the wrong side of an age limit I would prefer to stick to. He has a couple years left, is it worth it? Not to me.

    There are other, younger, stronger, players that are out there. If you are going to offer the farm, then you might want to make sure whoever you get back has as many years left in them as it is going to take you to replace the investment you are selling. Basic R.O.I. principles.

    If Ramirez is going to play SS, and it looks like he is, we need to know who is playing third base, and we need another starting pitcher. That is all we really NEED, as the bullpen already looks pretty good, and utility players are just that – utility players. Guys who are only going to get 300 plate appearances at best are all over the place.

    Yeah, I would rather have Victorino as our back-up outfielder, Youkilis as our 3b and Daniel Murhpy as the utility guy works for me but what I think is more important is to do what the Dodgers have done best for years – blow them away with strong pitching. And that is Greinke, Price, Shields, Hellickson… there are a few that appear to be available.

    The Rangers appear to be ready to throw the bank at Greinke. I would not be surprised to see the Dodgers win that sweepstakes by throwing more money than the $150 million.

  12. ken says:

    There is a possibility that Greinke prices himself out of the market during the Winter Meetings and the dodgers decide to try and make a very strong bid trade for a starter with the Rays. Maybe the dodgers end up making no trade and no free agent signings during the WM and we all have to wait another 3 weeks. Crawling toward the pitching cliff. Then again maybe the dodgers just empty the minor leagues system and trade for King Felix.
    Patience!

  13. SpokaneBob says:

    The Dodgers are in the Catbird seat. They have the money and everyone knows they are prepared to spend it. They are just not going to bid aginst themselves. Everyone is waiting on Greinke to sign….to raise the bar. When things start,alot of stuff will happen fast.

    Greinke is the priority but Ned will not stop there. We have to have 2 aces to get through the post season. I think we need a #3 to make sure we get to the post season.

  14. Pete M. says:

    Yes Dickey is 38… Yes he wants 2 yrs. extended to 2013 contract…Buttttt, he is a knuckleballer and were not looking at alot of wear and tear…Hell, he could come out of the pen, besides starting, if necc in this years post season play…
    Thats sorta what I meant when I said Z.G. is not going to end up a Dodger. I have a feeling he signs when he beats C.C. by $1.00… Trust me, he aint no C.C. That kinda guy is a once in a long time find.

  15. the truth hurts says:

    I am going to play devils advocate for a second here….

    Is Greinke really worth it?

    Sabathia when he signed with the Yankees was WORTH it.

    Lee when he signed with the Phillies was WORTH it.

    Greinke……I mean I think he is a great pitcher, but is he WORTH 5 trillion dollars????? Is he that good?

  16. ken says:

    Haren to Nats, demand and therefore price for Greinke may slowly go down. Greinke may blink by 12/6.

  17. Kevin says:

    ARE YOU KIDDING ME? We could probably get those guys for half of what you are proposing! If we are including Lee in any deal we better be getting back Cliff Lee or James Shields back.

  18. Bobbie17 says:

    Do we have a catcher who can catch Dickey? Bad deal. Last season was a fluke, as his history proves. We can do better. Greinke and the Korean. That’s it. Then let’s figure out who will play LF and 3B and 2B.

  19. Gonzo says:

    Although a prospect is just that – a prospect the ones you mentioned in your trade could get you something better, in my opinion. I’m holding hope for a surprise signing of Reynolds for 3B. He is just what we need a stop gap for 3 years. If I recall correctly Reynolds is a decent fielder he just has years where he’s bad and others when he’s not. Look it up:

    http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/player.php?p=reynoma01

    • Gonzo says:

      Also, he is a poor mans Mark McGuire. Tons of power and not good contact. Most in here say McGuire can work with anybody why not Reynolds? Cruz is a super sub an or 2B.

  20. Gdub says:

    Mark is on crack! LOL I will not empty out the Farm for a 38yr old pitcher who had a fluke season. Price and King Felix are the only SP I will empty the farm for. Ethier, Gordon, Reed or Pederson & cash for Shields or Hellickson? TB needs offense to compete in the AL East.

  21. Badger says:

    Is Greinke worth the money? Hell no, but that doesn’t really matter now does it? If he can keep throwing 200 innings of 3.5 with positive sabre numbers, he will help this team win. And, that is the bottom line.

    I would love to see us get that young, strong arm. Shields and Price are in that category as far as I can tell. Pitchers coming to Chavez have a better chance at being as good, or better, than they have been. Hitters not so much. Just another reason why I want to more better pitching arrive. It would be cool to raise our hitters to acheive success in L.A., but I realize that takes time.

    McGwire could help Reynolds make contact, but Reynolds is an all or nothing guy. Some of the home runs I saw him hit in Arizona were ridonkulous – 450′. They looked like a Tiger Woods 7 iron shot. If you take that away, he might become a .270 hitter, but, would those OPS numbers suffer? Prolly. I wouldn’t mind giving he and McGwire some time together, but I don’t think Reynolds is our answer at third.

    The Dodgers appear to be “in” on everything out there. Somefin gonna happen soon.

  22. DodgerDog says:

    I like Dickey but if we’re talking the players Mark mentioned we should be talking about them as part of a deal that brings back a Price or King Felix. Would a mix of those players and Ethier/Puig be enough to get Seattle’s attention? How would people feel about a trade involving Ethier, Olt and Holland?

  23. ken says:

    The Dodgers are shopping for a shortstop or third baseman to pair with Hanley Ramirez on the left side of the infield, tweets Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com, adding that the team’s approach at this point appears to involve pursuing an All-Star at every position.

    $300 mil in 2013? LOL

    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/12/nl-rumors-stanton-swisher-mets-dodgers-cubs.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MlbTradeRumors+%28MLB+Trade+Rumors%29#SWT9ZCMH4YxScS6U.99

  24. Brooklyn Dodger says:

    If the Dodgers are shopping for a shortstop or 3B of All-Star caliber, doesn’t that mean they’re open to having Hanley be their third baseman? How about Tulowitzki? I know he’s been injured, and I’m not sure of his current status, but a healthy Tulo would fit very nicely in our lineup. Would our division rivals be open to such a deal? Maybe, if the price was right, and a little (lot) of cash was thrown in. Who knows, maybe if Gordon stayed, he could eventually shift over to 2B. Heard an interview with Colletti the other day in which he admitted that the Dodgers probably rushed Gordon last year, and indicated that Gordon could open the season in AAA, and be part of the Dodgers middle infield depth during the season.

    But rest assured, I’m not holding my breath on this one.

    Colletti’s pessimistic remarks about the signing of Ryu may just be posturing, but if true, that would just free up a lot of money to do other deals. Between the refund of their posting fee and the money saved by not having to sign Ryu, the amount saved could be between $50-60 million. If so, I suspect the Dodgers would find a way to put that money to good use.

    Of one thing I’m pretty sure. The Dodgers will do something (probably a lot), sooner or later.

  25. AnewBlueDay says:

    Something in my old baseball bones says: DO NOT trade Dee Gordon away, just yet.

    He was not ready last season, then the injury, and he might open the season at AAA.

    But SS’s are hard to come by, and I have the feeling by 2014 the Dodgers just might need him as the Dodger SS.

    If Hanley gets moody, looses more skills as a SS, or is even traded away — the Dodgers will look to Dee in the future.

    But if they do the rumor talk, and trade for a KEY SS now, I understand and Dee is a trade chip.

    Does anyone know — is that a SS super guy in A or AA now the Dodgers really feel good about??

  26. DRomo says:

    Victorino to Boston. Hmm?

    (I know this is jumping the gun)
    What if we do nothing in the Winter Meetings? What if we strike out on Greinke. Maybe he takes less money to play where he wants to go? What if free agents just aren’t that in to us? Whoa!

    We’d have a bucket of cash and no one to play with us.

    Hard to imagine but, what if?

  27. Rob says:

    With victorino likely going to Boston that should free up Cody Ross for our fourth outfielder

  28. Pete M. says:

    Is it true Grienke at around $185…Ridiculous…I know it aint my money, but I’m gonna pay a lion’s share in tix and cable packages…
    Just call bullshit and go to other teams in F.A. or Trades…
    HanRam aint going anywhere. Why do so many keep indicting him of being this and that when last year, albeit a short time he was productive. Next season he knows he’s surrounded by damn good lineup and should flourish…He’ll run, go yard and be happy…Why not???

    • ken says:

      Hopefully as other teams conclude that the dodgers might over pay for Greinke, they go to other solutions, i.e. Nats sign Haren, or reach their payroll budget limit, i.e. Rangers possibly resign Hamilton, then Greinke will havve priced himself out of the market and his price to the dodgers drops back to $150. Ned is patiently negotiating from strength.

  29. ken says:

    Crawford, $20 mil, Harang, Reed, and Magill for Upton

  30. SpokaneBob says:

    Although we are all waiting with baited breath for something to happen, it’s best for Ned to deal from strenth. Play the waiting game and we win. “Have patience and no one can hurt you”

    It must be strange for Colletti to be in this position. I am glad that he is established in his position. Of course he does nothing without Stans blessing. Smart beat money if you have both and patience.

  31. the truth hurts says:

    Skip Schumaker on mlbrumors.com?

    Hit .276 with 1 HR last year.

    There is our 4th outfielder.

  32. Michael says:

    Perhaps since everybody knows that we have carte blanche, Stans wish list just went over the fiscal cliff.
    Prediction; Zach will surpass the highest contract ever signed by a pitcher, CCs $161 big ones!

  33. Brooklyn Dodger says:

    Patience and nerves of steel are what’s required, and apparently Colletti and Kasten understand that. They’ll make an offer whenever, or if ever, they deem it appropriate. The last thing the Dodgers should be doing is allowing the agents to pace them. And they have to be prepared with plans B, C, D, etc. in the event they reach an impasse and choose to walk away, which they must be prepared to do. If anything, Colletti and Kasten know that they’re going to have to negotiate with these agents again in the months and years to come. Showing weakness now will only place them at a disadvantage going forward.

    And if anyone is impatient, keep in mind that sometimes these deals aren’t completed until January, or even later.

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