In Peter O’Malley’s last years, the Dodgers farm system was 10 times worse than right now. I can tell that LAWDOG has never been to a game at Camelback Ranch or considered why the Dodgers have such a large cadre of minor league instructors, and are one of the few teams that has a year-round training facility with a full staff of trainers and coaches. So McCourt can hose the fans?
IF YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT, YOUR LOGIC IS JUST SO SKEWED BY YOUR HATRED OF MCCOURT THAT YOU CAN’T SEE THE FOREST FOR THE TREES! The Dodgers have consistently ranked in the upper 40% of Minor League Rankings and were just named the Topps Organization of the Year (of course you minimize that because it doesn’t fit your fictitious model). Like it or not, that’s who Topps chose. The Dodgers were recently ranked 12th in one blog while KC was first. What is interesting is that KC was ranked 17th LAST year – things can change a lot in a year. I’m anxious to see what BA says this year.
Some on this blog have minimized the TOPPS award, but Topps has been giving out this award since 1966 and the last time the Dodgers won it was in 1997. If you care to read about it, you can go to BIG LEAGUE STEW and read what Mark Townsend wrote about the methodology behind the award. But, this award is based upon fact, not fiction, so I am not sure you can comprehend it, Lawdog,
Dodgers minor league teams finished with a .513 winning percentage, which is 13th in baseball. The Great Lakes Loons in the Midwest League led the way with 90 wins and .647 winning percentage – the best marks of any Minor League team. The Ogden Raptors made it to the championship series in the rookie-level Pioneer League, losing to the Helena Brewers. Jonathan Mayo of MLB.com wrote this:
It may have been a disappointing year at the big league level, but if the performance of the Dodgers’ farm system in 2010 was any indication, there might be help on the way, even if it takes a little while to get there.
According to Ken Gurnick of Dodgers .com it was also just announced that Dave Hanson returned to the Dodgers as a hitting instructor and is working with the Dodger youngsters. Hansen is currently one of the instructors working with 16 selected top prospects in the Dodgers’ annual winter-development minicamp at Dodger Stadium (which is also something McCourt doesn’t have to do that costs a lot of money).
Lawdog goes on to say:
I’m not saying our top prospects were genuine 24 karat can’t miss guys. But we gave them all away, and for what? A bunch of overpaid geezers looking to cruise to their last big payday. The prospects we’ve gotten back over these McGoo ears all seem to be 24th round picks with genuine major flaws that we hope we can coach out of them in a few years. But McGoo’s got nutten’ on St. Nick!
Your argument that these guys couldn’t have been much good because they brought us so little in return begs the question and misses the mark. The point is, they brought us so little in return through the incompetence of the front office–and owner.
My response is that you should read Jared’s Post today. And the Angels’ Farm System is not irrelevant. You have held Arte Moreno out as a good owner, but they are rated below the Dodgers and have the same kind of turnover of players. EVERYONE DOES. You are comparing the Dodgers to the standard you think should be met, but it’s not reality – again, it’s fiction. Deal with reality!
Hate McCourt all you want – If Joe Torre or Steve Garvey or some other person could put together a group to buy the Dodgers and they had money behind them, then I am in, but to belittle the organization for McCourt’s decadent lifestyle is far from the truth. The organization and minor league part therein is still TOP NOTCH, and TOPPS saw fit to say so.
You chastise the Dodgers for giving up Santana, but another Top Organization gave up Hanley Ramirez! Santana is no Hanley Ramirez! The jury is still out on him and Lambo and McDonald. The value you put on the Dodger prospects is not reality. Do you really think Ned says “I know these guys are worth a lot, but just give me a little?”
Lawdog says that “[McCourt] didn’t want to offer arbitration to those players who would not have accepted same had it been offered, and didn’t want to pay for what the extra first rounders and sandwich rounders would bring. Had he done so, we’d have been back on the road to recovery, down on the farm, very soon.”
So, instead he signs Zach Lee for MORE than those first rounders and sandwich would have gotten combined? You ARE crazy! And you can say that stuff about them not accepting arbitration, but you have no clue. Wolf would have certainly accepted and tried to negotiate a longer deal, and even though Hudson didn’t like Torre, money talks! He might have.
You say the Dodgers won’t sign Free Agents? Should they have paid Werth $130 mil or Crawford $150 mil or Beltre $100 mil, because that’s what it would have taken to sign them? I personally wouldn’t touch any of those contacts! I have ZERO problem with that, but oh… I almost forgot, you live in a fictional world with funny money!
Everything is not all roses and the Dodgers (like all organizations) have warts, but it is not nearly what some of you feel it is. What you feel is fiction. Face the facts – the Dodgers have issues, but top-to-bottom, they are one pretty good organization! Watch and learn!
Lawdog, you are not alone! There are others on this board who are with you in your house of fiction. I am sure that you don’t want to be confused with the facts, because your mind is already made up, but I tried!