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Prognosticate This

Prognosticate This

So, in Game One of the 2010 World Series, two Cy Young Winners faced off in what figured to be a classic pitcher duel.  But of course, the game ends up being the second highest-scoring game one in World Series History. Nobody, but nobody saw that coming, and if you had taken the “over” on runs scored, you would have sent to a mental institution posthaste.   Who the heck can predict anything?   The fact of the matter is that the Giants scored 30 more runs than the horrid 2010 Dodgers.  That’s an average of .186 more runs a game.

Let me ask you this:  As both teams are now configured, would you trade the Giants starting eight for the Dodgers starting 8?  Hint:  You think Casey Blake is awful – the Kung Fat Panda wasn’t far behind:  .268 (.323 OB%) 13 HR 63 RBI.  Blake was .248 (.320 OB%) 17 HR 64 RBI – he was so bad that Uribe started at 3B.    Now, Buster Posey is currently the second best catcher is all of baseball and he is a horse, but would you trade Loney, Kemp, Ethier, Furcal, Martin, Theriot, Robinson and Blake, for Torres, Sanchez, Posey, Burrell, Ross, Huff, Uribe and Renetria?  All of those guys are in their thirties, except for Posey.    Would you make the deal?


Forget about Lee’s bad outing last night – he’ll be fine.  In 2010, Cliff Lee  walked just 18 batters in 212 innings. What an amazing stat!  The secret of pitching like Cliff Lee is to have good stuff, throw the first pitch for a strike and continually adjust so that the hitters never know what is coming.

It wasn’t always like that.  Did you know that Cliff Lee once had control issues?  In 2004, at age 25 Cliff Lee walked 81 batter in 179 innings.

In 2010, at age 22, Clayton Kershaw walked 81 batters in 204 innings.  I think that gives us all a lot of hope, doesn’t it?


Brian Wilson Had a Bad Beard Here Too

If J-Brox could throw a backdoor slurve or whatever that was to Ryan Howard, he would be awesome.  Wilson has an awful beard, but he has a lot of  ”intestinal fortitude” to throw such a pitch in that situation.   Some say it’s Broxton’s lack of a particular pitch – maybe!   I happen to believe it’s just a lack of intestinal fortitude. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

It’s nice to see IDJ2 doing well in the AFL.  It will be interesting to see if he can win the 2B job next year.  Hopefully, Theriot will be non-tendered.

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31 Responses to “Prognosticate This”

  1. to all those who said we gave up a good prospect in Lambo:

    JMT (Pittsburgh)

    Can you further explain your Lambo tweet? No one else has made any comment about this behavior and his performance on the field has been very promising so far.
    Klaw (1:28 PM)

    I described the specifics of his on-field behavioral problems here in the AFL in one of my recent blog posts. And since then I’ve heard more stories from scouts who saw him this year and last. Hey, Andrew, if you’re reading: Grow up before you flush all that talent down a great big toilet.

  2. Badger says:

    “would you trade the Giants starting eight for the Dodgers starting 8?”

    That is a very interesting question.

    My immediate reaction would be – no. These gints are all playing way over their heads. But, they are playing with something the Dodgers just don’t seem to have – and that is “want to”. These guys are all pulling on the same end of the rope and what they are accomplishing tells us all what can be done when you play on a “team”. The Dodges are made up of 8 individuals and a pitching staff that played down to the position players level.

    Lambo? What’s the problem with Lambo?

    • ray says:

      here’s more on LAMBO from KLaw’s blog

      Pittsburgh outfielder Andrew Lambo’s shown good and bad sides so far in Arizona. The good has been the raw power — it’s a simple, direct swing with good leverage, and he can murder a fastball or poorly placed offspeed pitch, mostly pull the ball. He’s fringy defensively but has a plus arm and probably won’t cost his team too many runs in right field. The bad has been the on-field behavior — arguing loudly with an umpire (attendance is sparse here, so we could hear every word in the seats) and, after flinging his bat into the seats on a swing and miss, holding up the game until the young fan gave him back his bat, only to fling it right back into the stands again and raise the same stink.

      • Badger says:

        I am sure you can continue to find articles like this if you search hard enough little ray. But I haven’t heard anything from his managers that suggest he is a problem. In fact, this is what I read…. from Juan Bustabad:

        “I had him last year too, and there have never been any problems,” Bustabad said. “He talks a lot, but in a good way. He keeps everybody loose. He’s one of our better players, so he tries to be a leader. He’s young, but he’s learning to be a leader.”

        He is a leader. But, since the Dodgers have SO MANY of them, they sure don’t need any more do they. Off to Pittsburgh for another washed up arm. (They had plenty of them this past year too didn’t they.)

        I have no idea if this kid will be a problem and neither do you. Milton Bradley comparison? Come on, that’s laughable.

        • ray says:

          what’s laughable is you disregarding scouts take on him and calling him a leader.
          Is his manager going to say anything negative in the press? I doubt it.

          • Badger says:

            What scouts are saying? I don’t know what you mean by that. I posted a little while ago what I am reading, and here is more of the same:


            A 4th round 2007 pick out of Newberry Park (Los Angeles) high school, first baseman Andrew Lambo fell lower than his talent dictated due to character concerns, but now that he’s maturing, he’s a civilized monster waiting to happen. The Dodgers preferred to use his all-around athletic ability in the outfield, but his new owners in Pittsburgh may reopen the question of Lambo as a future first baseman. At the plate, Lambo slashed .288/.346/.462 at A level Great Lakes in 2008, and nearly .400 in a two week callup to AA Jacksonville at the end of the season.

            “He’s still very young, and will need reduce the 110 strikeouts he chalked up in 2009, but he should be a powerful option for the Pirates come 2011 or so.”

            Powerful option. Nothing about smoking a joint now and then. You guys who get flipped out over a little ganja need to have a couple a drinks and mellow out.

  3. Brooklyn Dodger says:

    Maybe Lambo needs to go to Texas and attach himself to Josh Hamilton. The kid probably has issues that have nothing to do with his talent, but which gets in the way of whatever talent he has. Either he gets in touch with himself or he doesn’t. Only time will determine the outcome.

    Badger, you hit it on the nose. The Dodgers definitely need to develop some of that “want to”. That, and the mental toughness Mattingly has mentioned, are what I’m hoping to see in 2011. We’ll just have to wait and see.

  4. Mark Timmons says:

    Do you think Torre could be partially responsible?

  5. Badger says:

    “Do you think Torre could be partially responsible?”

    Yes. He was the leader of that group.

    But in all fairness, the message was sent from the top. Think about the washed up players that were brought in to help the core group. No need to go over the names, we have done it here a thousand times. We let two key pieces from last year’s team go and never replaced them. And that was a team that came up short. You need to add, not subtract, and the Dodgers did not add.

    I ask again, what did Lambo do? The only thing recent, from today, I could find was this:

    “The early standout of the Pirates’ seven entries into the all-prospect Arizona Fall League was LF Andrew Lambo, owner of an 11-game hitting streak that included a 3-for-6 output Oct. 26 for the Mesa Solar Sox. He was batting .314 with two home runs and 13 RBI. Continued performance at that level could convince management to promote him to Class AAA Indianapolis for next season.”

  6. Mark Timmons says:

    Hey, maybe I can score some pot next year…

    • Badger says:

      I’m sure you can. And since you are the boss, you won’t need to worry about a drug test.

      Again, what does this have to do with Lambo? Are you talking about the fact he smoked pot a few years ago? If that is it, is that really a problem for you?

      I am not really watching the series. So much else going on, and I don’t care about these teams so….. I hope they both lose.

      • Mark Timmons says:

        “a few years ago?” He was suspended THIS year for it. 50 Games!

        I don’t care, but MLB does.

        • Badger says:

          Oh pulleeeze…..

          Lincecum smokes and nothing happens. Smoking pot? That is what you are refeering to? You know what, I’ll bet that is why Jed Confetti gave him away for a washed up reliever.

          Marijuana should be legalized and it should be legalized as of 20 years ago. The only reason it isn’t is because of backward thinking people and Big Pharma’s billion dollar campaign against it. Ridiculous. Alcohol is a MUCH bigger problem for athletes and for our society and nothing is done about that. People are out driving drunk right now and every 45 minutes in the U.S. someone is killed by a drunk driver. What’s the stat for being killed by someone stoned?

          Lambo, along with McDonald, will probably be an outstanding pro and both of them will be good sooner rather than later.

          • ray says:

            we’ll see about that. McDonald showed flashes of being good last year.
            Guys like Lambo, with the attitude issues, even after getting suspended 50 games, don’t sniff the majors.
            Does Pittsburgh want a Milton Bradley on their hands at the major league level? I think not. They have enough problems trying to win games.

  7. Roger Dodger says:

    9th inning, and wow!!! Nolan Ryan’s pitchers have caved in. Familiar. The Giants can do no wrong.

    Remember in that movie about the Cubs and the kid that hurt his arm and ended up pitching for the Cubs. And he was having a bad inning and the pitching coach or his private coach came out to him and said . . . something about doing something with your something . . . and he did. That is what these Giants are doing. They are doing something with their something and they and we cannot explain it,

  8. Bill Russell says:

    The Dodgers should sign Cody Ross this off season. I wouldn’t mind seeing him as an every day player in blue next year. He gives 110% every game.

    Matt Cain is better than I thought he was. He is truely Ace Material.

    What does everyone think of Vlady sitting on the bench? I guess Manny is a better defender than Vlady but you got to find room for his bat.

    What are the Dodgers going to do this off season and will Lilly be their best signing for 2011? I got more questions than answers. As Badger says I say. Peace

  9. lawdog says:

    Ross would return to Mendoza land if he came to play for the losers we call the GA Dodgers. The reason the rangers and the Giants willed their way into the series was with outstanding starters ad late relief and with bands of Mickey hatcher stuntmen.

    They play together. They lift each other up, They don’t try to do too much but they execute and do what they know they can do. It’s that simple. They are great teams in the little league sense even though as a collection of stars, they don’t have anymore than we did in 88 when we played like a team for maybe the last titie. The Giants fit that mold better than the Rangers who have less talent, good team play, but nothing thatso far anyway can counterthe collective will of the Giants. They have no egos to speak of but they believe their team can win and that each of them is an integral part in that “team”

    The Giants in 6, unless it rains in Texas. Then they’ll win in 5. Rigth now, it’s “Tim and Cain, then pray for rain.” Why didn’t Boche go with a 3 man rotation so he could play games he’d probably wins tho thirds of the time instead of 50% of the time. If they didn’t have home field advantage the series might look entirely different with the Rangers favored to win in because we’d be going into the 5th and 6th games with the anti-Lincecum and ant-Cain… Seems like he did”botch” that call when he set his rotation.

    This series, like the Dodgers series in 88 proves David can slay Goliath if David has good pitching, but David better also have a team playing for each other and not a collection of prima donnas if they expect to defeat the Philistines.

  10. Badger says:

    I don’t see what Cain has. He throws 92 mph fastballs right down the middle and no one seems to be able to hit them. Maybe they are moving more than it looks like on t.v..

    The gints are just having everything go their way. Very strange. These guys are just not this good, but, there they are.

    I sure hope the Rangers wake up and make this a series.

  11. Anonymous says:

    Looks like Donnie Baseball is just like Torre when it comes to managing a pitching staff!

  12. Brooklyn Dodger says:

    “Guys like Lambo, with the attitude issues, even after getting suspended 50 games, don’t sniff the majors.”

    Tell that to Josh Hamilton. And I guarantee you there are others I’m not thinking about. Probably others than have had problems that no one has even heard about.

    And smoking pot has nothing to do with an attitude problem. After all, as Badger pointed out, Lincecum has smoked a joint or two, or three, or more in his life. Seems all that I ever hear about Lincecum’s attitude is positive.

    Besides, Lambo is a kid (unless you think that being over 18 magically makes a person an ADULT). Attitude problems in kids often disappear with maturity (sometimes not). Or is it that people’s attitudes are set in stone at an early age with no chance of adjustment?

    And trading McDonald and Lambo for Dotel was INSANE. If both McDonald and Lambo never accomplish anything in the big leagues, it was still insane. Getting “a washed up reliever” for two solid prospects was idiocy personified. There is no way that these two players couldn’t have been packaged (maybe with other players) for a lot more than Dotel.

    And let’s not get carried away with Cody Ross. He’s a nice player to have on your team, but a star by no means. I see him more as a 4th outfielder on a contender, not a starter. He’s good for .260 – .270 with 15 – 20 HRs. His combined stats for the Marlins and Giants in 2010 are .269, 14 HR, .322 OBP, .413 SLG, and .735 OPS. Let’s not get carried away because he’s been hot in recent weeks. These things have a way of evening themselves out over time.

    Matt Cain is a very good pitcher. But again, really no better than Billingsley. I didn’t see his game against Texas, but I’m betting that part of his success had to do with Texas’ lack of familiarity with him. Or, maybe he’s just in a zone, or maybe he’s really just figuring it out, and will continue to improve. Maybe, maybe, maybe.

    And maybe the Giants will end up winning the WS. And then again, if Texas comes back, it wouldn’t be the first time a team came back from 0 – 2 to win the Series. Anybody remember the Dodgers in 1981 sweeping the Yankees in four straight after losing the first two?

    “Looks like Donnie Baseball is just like Torre when it comes to managing a pitching staff!”

    Stop and think before you write. I’ve pointed this out before, and so have others. The major purpose for having the AFL is development, NOT winning. Fact is, the managers in that league have their hands tied to a certain degree. For example, the team Mattingly is managing is composed of prospects from various organizations, not just the Dodgers. He’s obligated to follow guidelines set by each of those organizations for their prospects. And, no matter how he might think, he’s obligated to provide playing time for everyone. And I’ll guarantee you that using a position player to pitch (and thereby risk injury) is very likely a no no. I suggest that people reserve judgment on Mattingly’s managing until a few months into the 2011 season. I know I am.

  13. lawdog says:

    When Cain was on his game we couldn’t touch him either. (Of course, that’s not saying very much.)

  14. Badger says:

    Somebody should be Able to touch Cain.

    That one just came to me.

    “And trading McDonald and Lambo for Dotel was INSANE”

    Can we get an amen from the congregation!?

  15. ray says:

    Badger-its not the ganja that the scouts were concerned with. It was his ON-FIELD actions last year and this year. His attitude is horrible according to scouts that KLaw spoke with.
    One has to wonder if one has something to do with the other with Lambo.
    Trading Lambo and McDonald for Dotel was as insane as the Dodgers trading Joel Guzman to TB….how’d that work out?

  16. Badger says:

    On field actions? Like that bat throwing incident? It’s behind him. He is a hot tempered kid that needs to grow up. When he does, he is 30 HR’s and 100 RBI’s waiting to happen.

    Dotel pitched 18 innings for the Dodgers with a save and 3 holds. Who did we get in return for him? Seriously – who?

    “Trading Lambo and McDonald for Dotel was as insane as the Dodgers trading Joel Guzman to TB…”

    Where does this come from? Totally nongermane.

  17. Brooklyn Dodger says:

    Joel Guzman was traded along with Sergio Pedroza for Julio Lugo. At least at the time Lugo was hitting .308 with 12 HR in 289 AB’s for Tampa Bay, and had several good years behind him, and was only 30 years old. Dotel was 36 and clearly trending downward. So how are the deals comparable?

  18. lawdog says:

    Seth should be Abel to touch Cain. Abel isn’t able since he got whacked by his bro’. :mrgreen:

  19. lawdog says:

    Trading Lambo and McDonald was absolutely felony stupid and whoever is responsible should be fired.

  20. Bobby says:

    any clue when we find out who we got from colorado for dotel?

  21. Badger says:

    Bobby, ray is going to get it for us.

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