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Why Joe Torre is Irrelevant

Why Joe Torre is Irrelevant

Tony Jackson reported that this was what Joe Torre said when asked if Kenley Jansen could close next year:

This is Jansen two years ago!

“Next year, I don’t think so,” Torre said. “He certainly has a lot to learn, so it would be tough for him to take the ball and simply run with it. There is no substitute for experience, and he is going to keep getting that experience. I know from talking to [incoming manager Don Mattingly] that Donnie is pretty committed to Broxton [as next year's closer].”

That’s why Joe is irrelevant and senile!  Let’s hope that Donnie was just saying that to placate Torre.

Have you seen what this guy has done this year?

Are you kidding me, Joe?  This guy wants the ball and can’t wait to throw the next pitch.  Jon Broxton “hates” to throw the next pitch!

Bye, Joe!

It’s been a real pressure…. ‘er pleasure!

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8 Responses to “Why Joe Torre is Irrelevant”

  1. Michael says:

    That might seem wacko but in all reality it is the most likely thing to happen.
    I doubt that we could get much of anything for him and with his contract, he WILL get every opp to put an asterik on this [censored] second half.
    That doesn’t mean he will be the closer on opening day or even May 1st, but he will get the chance.
    P.S. Lighten up on the guy a little {Donnie} Moore RIP

  2. Mark Timmons says:

    Donnie Moore WAS a sad story!

  3. Badger says:

    It wasn’t that long ago you were saying how successful the Dodgers have been, getting to the NLCS two years in a row. Of course, that was when you were defending Frankie McNoNuts.

    Joe is now irrelevent because the team he is running is now irrelevant – plus the fact he is a lame duck manager.

    As for Jansen being closer I agree with him. Jansen has pitched 25 innings in his big league career. Yeah, I have seen what he has done this year. I also saw what John Ely did in his first few times out there. How did it work out for him?

    Give him the set-up job and let him earn his way into the closer job. I doubt it will matter all that much next year.

  4. Brooklyn Dodger says:

    If Broxton is healthy and recovers his stuff next year, he should definitely be in the closing mix. Giving the job exclusively to the 23 year old Jansen, given his limited pitching experience, would probably be a mistake. No reason that the back end of games, including closing, can’t be shared by Broxton, Jansen and Kuo. The team also needs to put a lot more runs up on the board so that there are fewer close games in the latter innings. The blame for the overuse of the pen is generally directed at the lack of length given by the starting pitchers. But that’s not the complete story. The weak offense is also a major cause of why the starting pitchers don’t get the length that we would like. All too often we’ve seen the Dodgers score early and then fail to tack on runs.

    Middle relief on this team also needs a boost. Can Troncoso bounce back? Can Monisterios claim a regular job in the pen instead of being used sporadically as he is now? He could also be sent out for further seasoning. In his case, I think a lot will depend on what he accomplishes this winter. Will Elbert be able to replace Sherrill? And Belisario still remains a question mark for me. And other names will probably surface between now and the spring.

    Finally, I won’t touch the starting pitching beyond Billingsley and Kershaw. I just prefer to see it play out over the winter and next spring. Although many of us have ideas, at this point there is nothing definitive to tell us who might be acquired over the winter, and who might step up from the Dodger farm system. Like the McCourt case, it will just have to play out over time.

  5. Brooklyn Dodger says:

    By the way, Baseball America had this to say about some of our top prospects:

    BEST PLAYER: Dee Gordon. “The Dodgers keep challenging shortstop Dee Gordon–who has jumped from Rookie ball to Double-A in three seasons–and he keeps rising to the challenge. This summer the 22-year-old hit .280/.332/.359 at Chattanooga while stealing a league-leading 50 bases.
    After spending most of his amateur days as a basketball player, Gordon is still learning in the field. He made 37 errors in 127 games, though some of those were a product of his tremendous range. The Dodgers would like to see him become more consistent in the field and more disciplined at the plate: His average dropped 97 points from April to June.”

    BEST PITCHER: Rubby de la Rosa. “Hard throwing Rubby de la Rosa lit up the radar gun at Chattanooga, reportedly hitting 102 mph in a game at Carolina. But the numbers the Dodgers are most interested in are 7-1 and 2.39, his record and ERA in a 2010 season split between the Midwest and Southern leagues.
    The pencil-thin, 6-foot-1, 170 pound righthander was especially tough after being promoted to Double-A and becoming a full-time starter. The 21-year-old held opponents to a .203 average and just one homer in his first 46 innings at Chattanooga, working seven innings in each of his last six starts.”

    They suggest keeping an eye on Jarry Sands. “A 25th-round pick in the 2008 draft, Jerry Sands has emerged as the Dodgers top power prospect after hitting .303/.400/.596 while splitting time between the Midwest and Southern leagues. Sands also banged an organization-best 34 homers, tied for second in the minor leagues, and drove in 90 runs. De Jon Watson, the Dodgers’ assistant general manager for player development, calls the 22-year old a ‘blue collar baseball rat who’s going to play in the big leagues someday.’
    Sands who will head ot the Arizona Fall League, played all three outfield positions as well as first base this season and showed enough speed to steal 18 bases in 20 tries.”

  6. Badger says:

    I read this morning that Lilly will be seeking a 3 year deal – no surprise there – and his agent is saying the Dodgers don’t look like they will be able to match other offers – no surprise there either. Mentioned in the same paragraph was Kuroda, also on the market drawing interest. I know some in here don’t want to even talk about it, but it is worth mentioning that if the Dodgers remain a contested asset over the winter they will be restricted in spending. And no matter which way the court may rule, whoever ends up with the Dodgers spending will be restricted. I think most people believe it will be Frank – and frankly I don’t believe Jamie wants the Dodgers, she just wants the money. Which brings us to the settlement that many believe will happen after the ruling. Frank needs to make Jamie go away. That will be costly. The Dodgers had no money to replace Wolf and Hudson last winter, and this year they will have no money to replace two more starting pitchers and a left fielder.

    Prediction: the Dodgers won’t be players in free agency this winter. The Dodger owner is in handcuffs – so to speak.

  7. AnewBlueDay/Roger Dodger says:

    Brooklyn, I agree with you that the only two pitchers we should “pen” in at this point are Billingsley and Kershaw.

    The other names: Padilla, Monasterios, Ely — are not where I would go. Padilla gets injured and even though he is a hard worker — there are issues. Monasterios is just too hittable as a starter. Ely fell kinda flat.

    Lilly and Kuroda have to walk the walk of the FA trail. Cannot count on them, but one or both might be here if ownership wants to pay.

    So, the roster could see some new names . . .

    We are officially in the end of the first season of the re-building program. And it could take forever, just a Cubs, Pirates, KC, Baltimore fans.

  8. lawdog says:

    Offer Lilly, Kuroda and Padilla arbitration. Only Padilla is likely to accept and that would be a good thing for the back end of the rotation. He would come relatively cheaply.

    Take the draft picks we get for the departing Lilly and Kuroda and we have the beginning of a new farm system to go with that billion dollar arm we drafted and signed last draft.


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