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Roxton is a Loser

Roxton is a Loser

I have officially removed the first letter from Jon Broxton’s name and the first letter from his job:  Closer.  Roxton is a Loser

It suits who he is!

And, yes, I know I will be accused of having an “irrational hatred of Roxton” by other closers, ‘er losers!

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36 Responses to “Roxton is a Loser”

  1. Anonymous says:

    see what u can do with torres name

  2. Rhianna.more hits than Kemp says:

    Somewhere on the flight from the East Coast to California Dotel may have become the closer for the rest of the year!

  3. Bobby says:

    the closer job belongs to jansen, to see if he can handle it from 2011 on…

    brox has become armando benitez

  4. Rhianna.more hits than Kemp says:


    You may be right.hopefully you are right!

  5. Michael Patrick G says:

    Coletti is still playing the game like this season is salvageable.


  6. LESORDA says:


  7. Badger says:

    Broxton will be fine…..

    as soon as he learns how to throw a change-up. If he had thrown one in that situation, Burrell would have spun himself around twice trying to hit it. But alas…. no off speed for J-Bro and hitters can look for that 98 mph heater over the heart of the plate. We have seen this movie often enough to know the ending.

    So go ahead a trade him to a team that has a pitching coach that can show this kid what he needs to do. It’s obvious the Dodgers can’t do it.

  8. Chad says:

    Just stopping in to say that it’s hilarious how you resort to petty insults. You’re trying to defend yourself against accusations of irrationality in this post, but posts like this prove why people are saying you’re being irrational to begin with.

    You are like twice my age and you are calling other bloggers names like it’s third grade. Loser? Oh boy. My feelings, what a dagger.

    If you’re gonna talk about “being a man” and “sacking up” regarding Dodgers players, then at least man up and put my name in your post and link to my site if you have something to say. I’m not hiding, nor am I afraid, so whatever dude.

    Anyway, everybody knows how you feel about Broxton, which is fine, I suppose, since you hated him when his ERA was below 1, so why wouldn’t you hate him when his ERA is above 3. You would hate him if he saved 50 straight, so why would anybody be shocked by these posts.

    Anyway, carry on.

  9. Mark Timmons says:

    I just read Chad’s best excuse for Roxton’s choke job:

    “You won’t win many games scoring just one or two runs, no matter how long you happen to lead a single game with that few runs scored in.



    Dude, is Roxton your brother?

    He chokes in big games. Watch and see!

    He will keep it up.

    BTW Chad, you were not the ONLY one who said that!

    If you can call me “irrational” I can call you losers. I mean, what’s wrong with that?

    • Chad says:

      I didn’t write that, actually.

    • Chad says:

      Losers is playground name calling, I stopped when I was like 11.

      “Without the faculty of reason; deprived of reason.”

      I stated my case for people who hate hate hate Broxton being irrational many times. I provided evidence to state my case. You disagree, that’s fine, but don’t compare calling somebody a loser and arguing that a position is irrational.

      What evidence do you have for calling me a loser? Do you know me? Do you know my life? I’m guessing no.

      • Mark Timmons says:


        I don’t get around much, but just so I am clear, it’s a OK to call someone irrational, but not a loser?

        See, I couldn’t fit irrational in, I needed loser, because it was Closer without the … well never mind.

        I mean, we all call out players. I could go back and look, but I am sure you have called some of them out. Carroll? Anderson?

        I don’t know, but I do know that the skill level to play in the majors is so high it’s something few of us can relate to. Is Roxton really a loser? Damn, I used to throw 97, but I never sniffed the minors, let alone the minors and he makes a few mil more than I do, so I guess he’s really not one, but can’t I call him one.

        And.. I didn’t call you a loser because I REALLY don’t know you. I did say that if you said I was irrational, then you were. I think I’d rather be called a loser than irrational. Let me think about that…

  10. Ely's Coming, Better Hide Your Haeger says:


    You should just let the Broxton thing go…. everyone knows how you feel. You only post when he blows a save, never when he comes up big. He’s come up big a lot more than he hasn’t.

    Maybe you should spend the rest of the season hanging out with your daughter and less on these boards.

  11. Michael says:

    Over at Jon Brox is my homey AKA Chad, Broxton has only given up 2 HRs this year and 30 something in his career. This might be correct but it seems like McDonalds’ sign, billions served. Oh yeah their spin is its the offenses fault. If you get whacked over the head with a 2 by 4 everytime you groove a 3 and 2 pitch down the middle[every batter is sitting on it]how long does it take to learn you might throw a different pitch

    • Chad says:

      Didn’t write that, but yeah, the offense is why the team is below .500 in July, not Broxton. Broxton has obviously been shit in July, i’m not arguing that.

  12. Mark Timmons says:


    You are probably right, but it the REALLY BIG GAMES where he chokes. I mean, you can predict every time.

    Watch and see…

  13. Mark Timmons says:

    How many loses has Roxton been directly involved in this year?

    Give me your best guess.

    • Chad says:

      How many games has he directly loss?

      June 27th Against Yankees
      July 18th Against Cardinals
      July 20th Against Giants (Mattingly’s Double Mound Visit)
      Today Against Giants

      So three, or four if you want to count the one he didn’t get a chance to finish/blow by himself.

      Though I don’t think perfection is necessarily a realistic expectation.

  14. Mark Timmons says:

    ROXTON has blown nearly 28% of his save opportunities in his career and that does not even count ones where he is not CHARGED with a blown save, but we really know that he blows it anyway.

    How do you think that ranks with other top closers?

    Tell me. Explain it to me.

    How am I being too hard on the guy?

    Look I have never been in love with him, but now I really DISLIKE him. I will HATE him soon!

    • Chad says:

      You are including blown saves when he was a setup man though. He gets holds for holding those leads in the 8th, not saves. He’s at about 85% since he became a closer, which is…well…very good actually.

      Anyway, you wrote like last month that blown saves/saves/holds are a dumb statistics, and I agree.

      Broxton didn’t get a blown save for his losses against the Yankees and Cardinals even though he clearly lost those games. It’s a dumb stat, and you can’t use it only when it suits your argument.

  15. Mark Timmons says:

    OK, I have to go for a day or so.

    Feel free to skewer me.

    I don’t mind!

    After all, I am irrational anyway!

  16. Mark Timmons says:

    He seems to blow games which have the most meaning. When there is more at stake.

    I’m sure there is a stat for that, but I don’t know of it…

  17. Mark Timmons says:

    BTW Chad,

    If you knew me, you would know that I am not trying to be mean. I just write how I talk and I really am not a writer.

    Ask someone who knows me like that Moron Badger, or that Wanker Billy Russell…


  18. Mark Timmons says:

    Finally Everyone,

    DO NOT read Chad’s blog, because he is a good writer and you will never come back here.

  19. Mark Timmons says:

    I really do have to go…

  20. Mark Timmons says:

    … I can feel Jon Weisman’s hot breath. I’d better leave.


  21. LADODGERDAVE says:

    roxton is a loser….

    i completely agree mark….

    …this guy has choked one to many times in big situations, he should not close one more game, unless its the pirates, dbacks, or nationals……..

  22. Badger says:

    Mark’s a good guy. He bought me a great lunch in Napa, a beer in Glendale, and gave me a nice t-shirt that I work out in. We have been friends for over a decade, and other than his voting record I think he is mostly grounded. He just has some screws loose that cause him to lose his head occasionally. Like for example, most of the trades he suggests, predicting we would have something like 4 guys with 100 RBI’s, Kershaw would win 20, the Dodgers would win 96+, believing it would be “business as usual”, things like that.

    The way I look at it, if you set the bar that high, you could easily be disappointed, and Mark is just disappointed. I didn’t make that mistake with this team. I saw early the holes in it, and knew the division would improve, and it would take a lot of things to go the Dodgers way to win it all. Things have most definitely not gone the Dodgers way.

    But, since they did not follow my advice and sell, now is the time to make a decision. Am I on board for the haul to the finish line? Yes, I am. I still believe that this team has some serious talent on it, and maybe the new blood will infuse some energy into the slumping stars that need to have some pride in their work.

    Go blue.

    And……. Mark, I am still not going to let you out of those 500 push-ups.

  23. Roger Dodger says:

    Chad, I too have know Mark for over a decade. Back to the mid-90s really. I have roomed at Spring Training with him 4 times . . . so I know Mark a bit.

    He does aim high for the Dodgers success. He wants the best for the players and the team.

    Broxton is just now raining on his parade with his present lack of effectiveness.

    But you should have been here a year and two ago — when Mark was on Andre Ethier’s case. No matter what Ethier did — in Mark’s view Andre was “soft.” Meaning choke.

    I kept standing up for Ethier, one reason is I saw him play in AA before he came to the Dodgers and he was MVP of the Texas League. He was might guy.

    But Mark changed that the end of last year and got on the wagon and holding up cheering signs.

    That that has completely turned around. I have thrown Andre off the wagon and see him hurting the team — ever since he came off the DL for his pinky.

    Ethier is hitting way below .300 since he is back. He is hurting the team. Heck, Ethier might be helped if he went down to AAA for a week to work on his hitting.

    I do not know if the Dodgers can turn anything around now. The other teams are strong and getting stronger. The Dodgers have been playing so poorly, they are a sad case. Almost the entire team cannot hit anymore.

    McCourt cannot fire Joe, because Joe is Joe.

    Ned has been holding on to “the core” of younger players now for several years, and guess what, most of them are not producing. Not moving forward.

    My guess is that between now and next April 1, is the new re-building program in fast mode.

    The best this team has right now are two starting pitchers: Kershaw and Billilngsley. They are both on their game. They are moving forward. And Mark predicted that.

  24. Badger says:

    Ethier is not right, and it likely isn’t his fault. He was really hitting well before the accident, and is hitting .220 since. That should be an obvious tell – his swing is still being affected.

    Manny has been on the DL three times, Blake is hitting under .250, Martin hasn’t helped much, and Kemp seems a bit – distracted. When the team was hitting well, we didn’t seem to pitch well. Now the starters are pitching decently, and we stopped hitting. And the bullpen has been a mess, something many of us predicted months ago as we watched our starters throwing 100 pitches and be gone by the 5th inning. The arms are there, but, with Sherrill’s surprising failures, Broxtons’s mistakes and Belisario’s continued problems the pen has been overworked and shaky.

    This team is just not built to win it all. We need more starters in their prime and we need stronger, more stable ownership.

    Mark made predictions from his heart and not his head. Maybe he is too close to all of it to be objective.

    And I need to point out that in both the moves yesterday, the teams we dealt with sent money along with the players. That is yet another red flag for me on this ownership issue. I just can’t see everything being copasetic until McCourt is gone.

  25. Roger Dodger says:

    Badger, as you know, Mark is a motivator. He believes in the positive, move forward and one can move a mountain. He wants his team to do what others might even be afraid to do.

  26. Badger says:

    I understand that Roger. And I too believe in positive thinking – in my own life. If one could influence external outcomes just with positive thinking, the casinos in Vegas would be out of business.

    When it comes to something like this, thinking positive has nothing to do with an objective evaluation of your team. Early in the year I thought Mark was being unrealistic, and I told him so. In fact, I was so sure of it, I bet 500 push-ups on it. This team lost two important pieces on a squad that came up short last year. Without adding anything, how could it be better? And, being brutally honest here, anyone who believed it could be “business as usual” is probably a person, a one out of two person, to never have been through a divorce.

    I still hope this team can play, and finish, well. But at this point we are on a 4 game losing streak at a critical time in the schedule and we are starting that drive to the finish line 5 1/2 games behind. It will be very difficult, but not impossible, to make up that ground. Most in the media don’t believe it’s going to happen. Plaschke addresses that in his most recent column. But, we must remain hopeful.

    In the mean time we watch as the best get better, our rivals play extremely well and our owners carve each other up in court. It’s very frustrating for all Dodger fans.

  27. Roger Dodger says:

    If Kershaw can pitch a perfect game tonighty, maybe the Dodgers can win. But that is still 50 / 50.


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