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Logan White Interview

Logan White Interview

During my 8-day trip to Camelback Ranch last week, on Thursday, March 25th, I sat down with Logan White in his office for a twenty-minute  interview which lasted about an hour an a half. While it is impossible to present it all, I have selected certain aspects of the interview which I think you will find interesting.  His Blackberry was constantly going off – phone calls, e-mails, voice mails and he ignored them all to give me his undivided attention.  What a guy!   I am sure you can think of other questions to ask him, and I had a lot more too, but I could have spent another two hours asking them.  If you have some questions you would like me to ask him in the furture, let me know and I’ll try and do it.

What I say is in in bold.  What Logan says is in italic.

Logan Reacting When I Told Him De Jon Wants Him to Draft Better Players

Q.  De Jon Watson says he would have better success if you would draft him better players.

A.  (Laughs)  You know what?  He’s exactly right.  You know what else?  He and I get along great.  We really do.

Q.  I received a lot of positive responses on the last interview I did with you an De Jon.

A.  Ah, I know, I got in trouble - my wife went on there because somebody told her that I was talking about her too much.

Q.  There’s a lot of questions I’d like to ask you but I know that you wouldn’t/couldn’t answer them so I won’t.

A.  Go ahead, ask.

Q.  No, it’s a waste of time.  He’s one that’s not difficult:  Is Joe Torre brain dead?  Vicente Padilla, come on?

A.  Hey, he pitched great for us last year.   He’s always had good stuff.

Q.  If Jon Broxton had a changeup he’d screw hitters into the ground, why doesn’t he have a good one?

A. “If you think about it, Eric Gagne was a starter in the minor leagues and so developed some additional pitches in that role.  Brox wasn’t a starter for long so his repertoire of pitches wasn’t as developed.  One of the reasons we signed Eric Gagne was to hopefully provide Jon  some more development of his change-up.  Of course, they already knew each other, but Brox was talking to him quite a bit.

Q. How about Hiroki Kuroda?

A.  It was nice to see him pitch well last night.  You know, he ‘s had  those flashes where he’s pitched no-hitters, pitched extremely well, and then he’ll have games where he ‘s not just as consistent.  I think that in Japan they throw a lot of innings when they are young.  They throw a lot of pitches, and I think that we are not catching them in their best years.  We are catching them at the end of their careers.  It’s also difficult to get acclimated to pitching every five days instead of every six days.

 Q.  What about Josh Lindblom?

"Josh Lindblom is a big and strong kid"

A.  Josh is a just a big and strong kid.  He’s a fantastic makeup guy.  You know, it sounds weird, but last night I was sitting with his father at the game and I think we were both in agreement that while we didn’t want him to struggle, it was good that he did.   His mechanics were out of whack.  He was pitching uphill and had a stiff front leg.  That’s what caused him to pitch uphill a bit.  You saw his fastball coming up in the zone because of that.  But he battled and that was impressive.  When you see that come out in a kid, that’s a good thing.  He didn’t let [the bunt] affect him, and I was happy with how he competed.  I wished his mechanics had been better.  I think that he’s one of those “special makeup” guys, that I think can handle the major league environment.

Q.  Is he a starter or a reliever?

A.  You know, I think he can do either, or…   If you really had to pen me down, he’s best suited as a pen guy because he’s done it more.  When you see the pitches that he throws up there – he has four pitches, he throws strikes, he’s big and physical – I think he can start, but he’ll throw harder out of the bullpen.  I think he’s somewhat of a quicker fix out of the pen and could help us quicker there.

Q.  We might have to have him this year?

A.  Yeah, we might need him too.  It’s been good for him to learn how to pitch as a starter instead of coming out of the pen.  It’s helped him to learn how to pitch when he doesn’t have that great fastball.  When he pitched in college he was coming out of the pen exclusively and  was 95-96.  Last night, he was 88-93, so he’s got to pitch now, instead of just blowing it by guys, and that’s good that he’s learning.  That part was good for him. Plus the other factor is, for the longest time here, if you go back “pre-Billingsley” and I don’t know if you want to count Edwin Jackson, because he wasn’t here very long, but look how long it was before we developed a starter in-house?  It was a lotta’ years – you could make a case back to Dave Stewart. We need to develop starters, and that’s the most difficult thing to do.  What’s the toughest thing every offseason?  It’s finding starting pitching.  I think what happens is that it’s easy to move guys to the bullpen, especially a two-pitch guy.  It’s a little harder to develop a starter.  We just can’t move someone to the pen.

Q.  Yeah, and you draft third basemen and turn them into starting pitchers…

A.  (Laughs)  Like with Jansen, I grew up scouting with people around the game who taught me to look at the possibilities of the guy – what could be, not what is.   Like with Kenley Jansen, this guy has a great arm and big and physical and might grow out of the position of catcher, and that’s one of those God-given talents – a great arm.  There’s been a number of  converted guys – Trevor Hoffman was a shortstop, Joe Nathan was a shortstop.   You have to be open-minded…

Q.  Before I forget, James Loney.  Is he faster?  He looks visible faster. A.  He is.  It will be interesting to see how it plays out.  He was on a diffreent workout this Winter and he’s leaner.  He was in the 220 range last year and now he 205-208.  You know what, he has gotten with track people in the offseason to try and improve his speed.    He spends a lot of time with Maury [Wills] even though he’s not a basestealer, but Maury will tell you that he’s one of our best baserunners, because he’s pretty smart on the bases…   It’s funny that you say that because I thought the  exact thing and I was thinking, ‘James, stop at second, do not go to third.’  (Laughs).  I was afraid that he would try for a triple.  The thing you hope for is that the loss of weight and the leanness will not affect his power.  James Loney is the same type of hitter that Garrett Anderson is.  Everyone thought that Anderson would not hit 25 HR, that he would not have enough power.  I think that James will hit 25+ HR whether it’s this year or next year.  For me though, it doesn’t matter if he does – if he hits .300 and drives in 100 runs and plays gold glove defense.  I’ll take that guy.  I think that if  you put James in Tanpa Bay, he’s a 25 HR hitter the last few years.  Dodger Stadium is a tough stadium to hit homeruns.

Q.  Predictions, surprises and breakouts – who might surprise us this year?

A.  Major league level – I think James Loney is going to have a big year and I think Russell Martin is going to come back once he gets over this injury and have a big year.


Maury Wills, Don Newcombe and Logan White

Q.  Was Martin trying to pull everything last year?

A.  Yes, he used to be a guy who was really good, had a short swing, used the center of the diamond and went to opposite way.  He was really good at taking the outer pitch and going the other way.   He’d hit ball over the second basemen (in his first two years) and in the gap and then he’d surprise you and hit one out in dead-center.   You know, I’ve watched his swing over the years and when he’d get out of whack is always when he would fly open, his front foot would lift and collapse.  Then I could talk to him or the coaches would talk to him and get him back on track.    Now, Donnie’s really working with him and getting him staying consistent with what he is doing and I believe that will help him a lot.    I do think the fact that he went into a “lean, lean” program last offseason affected his ability to stay strong.  I think the added strength will show up in improved bat speed, and you know what, Russ has a lot of pride.  He’s young player who strugged and didn’t know how to get out of it.  On thing I will tell you is that Russ Martin has one of the greatest work ethics around.  He works his butt off.  It may not always show up in the boxscore, but he is always  working.  One winter he stayed at my house all winter and everyday he was up at 6 AM and he was working hard every day.  That hasn’t changed.  I think he has to be smart how he works as he gets older.  He’s one of those guys who could work too hard.  The thing with Russ is that he plays hurts.  Every little hangnail, he’s not going to Joe or the trainers.  He doesn’t ask out.

Q.  Anyone else?

A.  On the pitching side, I would say  that Bills is going to have a really consistent year, a really good year.  His motion is much better.   Last year, he breaks his leg, he tweaks his hamstring and he has a really good first half, but from a conditioning standpoint, you get into the fifth inning, get a little tired, then you get whacked around.  And I think it was related to conditioning because when you get tired the first thing that goes is your mechanics.  It was mechanics driven, when you get off just a little bit, it messes everything up.  Now, he’s physically fit, he’s visibly leaner and his conditioning is better.  The thing that bothers me is comments about Chad’s competitiveness, and I know he as well as anybody, and he’s a competitor.  He’s a very competitive guy.  He’s not happy that he didn’t finish good last year.  That’s good and I think that competitive drive will push him to a very good year this year.

Q.  What about James McDonald?

A.  James, I’m not making excuses for him, but he’s never had a good spring training in his life, and to me that a lack of preparation beforehand.  There’s something that he’s not doing before he comes to spring training.  He’s going to have to grow up and mature and figure it out.  I think that James is his own worst enemy at times.  I think he covers up some insecurity sometimes by seeming to be  a “happy-go-lucky, mess around” type of guy and he’s really not.   He’s a great person, a good person, but I think that until he figures out “you know what, I have really good stuff,” and he goes out to the mound and believes in himself, he’s always going to struggle.  To me, there only one of  two things, the kid has always thrown strikes in the minor leagues, and I don’t think it’s mechanics at this stage.  I think he gets up here and there a little insecurity, but once I think he gets settled in and sees a level of success, you’ll see him take off.  He’s on of those guys who will feed off that.   I think with him –  I love him death – but he needs to realize (a) I’m not believing in myself the way I need to; (b) I’m not as prepared  as I need to be; or (c) both of the above.

The kid has really great stuff.  I know his makeup.  I know it’s there.   It’s just a matter of getting his routine and preparation different.  One of the things that bothers me is that when he struggles at times, his body language puts off a bad vibe – he looks defeated.  The hitters pick up on this.  You can’t do that.  I think that’s what he’s got to work on a lot.  His parents are outstanding – his father was a  NFL Football player.  It’s hard to have belief in yourself when you struggle – it’s that old chicken and the egg thing.  I think it’s just one of  those things where he’s just got to start believing in himself a little more and how that’s going to happen – it’s kind of like hitting rock bottom as an alcoholic and you  have to make a decision one day as to whether you are going to die with a bad liver or I’m going to change this thing.  He’s, in my opinion, in that stage where he’s got to figure that out.  He’s going to have to say “I can’t keep going out there with that approach”.    I can tell  right away with his body language that his approach is not right.  I can see when he starts hanging his head and slowing everything down and stuff like that.  So, he’s got to figure it out and start believing in himself.  I can believe in him all I want, you know, and I do.  I’m one of his biggest supporters, but you know, until he starts believing in his own stinkin’ heart, it won’t happen.

Q.  Do you think he’s better suited to pitch out of the pen?

"Chris Withrow has a better arm than Clayton Kershaw"

A.  Obviously, he’s pitched well out of the pen.  I’ve seen him pitch well as a starter in the minors, but saying that he’s a pen guy is an easy fallback.  I think there’s no reason he can’t start.   Although he’s pretty good out of the pen.  I think it all depends upon his level of committement.   I think that if I am him I am embarassed and I am pissed and I say, “you know what – this is going to change.”  It’s in his power to do that, but only he can do that.  You are talking to his biggest fan.  I’m not his harshest critic, but I am his biggest fan.  I am realistic and I know how this game works and you cannot play in the big leagues with self-doubt.

Q.  It sounds like you need to have this conversation with him.

A.  You know, I have.  I have had a lot of conversations with him over the years, but this one… you are getting a little preview.

Q.  Of all the players who have been moved or traded over the past five years, which one would you most like to have back?

A.  “That’s a tough one, but based upon where he is playing, it would have to be Edwin Jackson.  Carlos Santana would be in that equation too, although we aren’t sure if he can be a major league catcher, and Josh Bell because of his great power.”

Q.  Can Ethan Martin play 3B in the major leagues and can Pedro Baez pitch in the majors?

A.  ”Yes! …. and if Pedro doesn’t continue to progress, we won’t hesitate to put him on the mound.”

Q.  One thing I am interested in, and maybe you can shed a little light on this, but at last count, Ned has 53 or 54 Assistant General Managers (laughs).  I want to know how that works.  Do you guys gather around a secret round table and discuss trades and players or is it conference calls, reports, etc.  How does this all work?

A.  (Laughs)  When you are general manager you want to hire people you have confidence in, vent with, bounce things off.  It’s no differenet with me and all the scouting staff.  I have a pretty large circle of people with input and many times I will have eight of the guys say “I think we should do this” and I say “Thank you very much, but we are going to do this.”  Sometimes I go with them, sometimes I don’t. I think it’s the same way with Ned.  I think  he tries to gather all the information he can.  The guys he brings in all have different strengths.  Obviosuly with me, before he brought a lot of others in, it was impossible for me to see all the minor league prospects.   It’s nice to have Vance to cover some teams and Rick to cover others.  You try to get good quality people around yourself and he is obviously comfortable with that group.

When we get together, Ned is great about saying “do what you need to do, just keep me informed.”

Q.  OK, so let’s just pick a deal.  When Manny came here and there were other players  involved, Carlos Santana,  Casey Blake and others, how did that work?  At some point in time, you were involved with Santana, as was De Jon – so did Ned say “Logan, De Jon, Tell me about Carlos and whether we should trade him or not?”

You want me to answer that?

A.  Yes, that’s exactly how it works.  They actually asked me to go scout Santana before the trade to try and determine if he could catch or not.   It wasn’t whether he could hit, we all knew he could hit, but we all wondered if he could catch at the major league level.  And we go with a consensus of opinions.  But it’s not like we go with the consensus.  Sometimes we go against it.   It just depends upon the situation and the player.  Last year he had Vance and myself see Halladay and Cliff Lee.  Some scouts may have seen a certain player while I have not, so Ned would have to rely on that more than what I might say.  One may say, “we need to trade for this guy” but maybe they haven’t seen Chris Withrow (who would be traded in the hypothetical deal), so while I haven’t seen the other player, I have seen the player we might have to give up and so it’s give and take.  And I may say “Whoa, you are not wrong in thinking this player will be good for us, but not for Chris Withrow.”  Sometimes we get into some good little tussles, especially about players other may not have seen.  Ned is really good about relying on De Jon, myself and coaches within the system.

Q.  So, you guys frequently come together in one place for a meeting?

A.  Yes, especially around the trade deadline or winter meetings and stiff like that.

Q.  So, you might say “You are crazy, he’s a good player” and the other guys says “you’re crazy”.

A.  Yeah, you try and be more respectful, but every once in a while that word might come out but not too often.  In any baseball room, there’s going to be disagreements and that’s a good thing.  If everyone is saying the same thing all the time, what use is that?    A lot of people say they don’t want “yes” guys, but they do want “yes” guys – we don’t have yes guys  here.  We try to give our opinion.  That’s what I want my people to do.

Q.  How far away from the majors is Chris Withrow?

A.  That’s a tough question.  He’s as close or as far away as you want to make it.  What I mean by that is that he could pitch up here now.   But, the concern is if you are bringing a guy up too soon, too fast.  Sometimes a young pitcher can miss a year or two and benefit.  I think that if you look at the history of the game that a lot of converted guys were good.  Why?  Because they had fresh arms.    I think that he’s a guy when he has 85% fastball command he ‘s ready, and he is close to that right now.  I know when I told people that he had a better arm than Clayton Kershaw, they said “Are you kidding me?”  No, he does have a better arm than Clayton.The deal with young pitchers is they don’t know how to weather the storm when they don’t have their best stuff.  Veteran pitchers can weather the storm and that just the growing pains with young pitchers.

In conclusion, Logan talked about Economics and how money doesn’t buy a pennant.  One only needs look at little Butler University, hidden near downtown Indianapolis to realize that big schools with big money don’t have a monopoly on everything in college basketball, any more than the Yankees having it in baseball.   Logan ended the interview with an analogy on building a million dollar house:

Are we done yet?

“A guy says to you that he wants me to  build a million dollar house for for him.  ’How much do I have to work with?’  I ask.  ’Unlimited, whatever.  I don’t really care, here’s the checkbook’, he says.  So, I built him a million dollar house and when you look back, I spent a million two to build it.  I bought extra tubs and faucets, screwed up a few things, I didn’t do the right architectural work and I had to redo some things, but all-in-all, it’s a beautiful home.   The flip side is ‘hey, let’s try an build a million dollar home, but let’s be smart about our money.  Let’s try and get things on discounts when we can.  Let’s be wise, not cheap, wise!’   Now, you are wise and you don’t order extra bathtubs and you don’t screw-up projects, you think things out and you know what?  Both homes, when they are done are beautiful million dollar homes, but one person spent $600,000 and the other spent $1.2 million.  To me what’s wrong with being wise and spending less money when you can.   Now, to me it’s all about being wise in your choices.

Q.  When you have a $200 million dollar payroll, you can make some mistakes and just go out and buy another player to cover up those mistakes.

No disrespect to the Yankees, but it was a long time between World Series and they were still spending a lot of money.  That can happen too.  There’s no guarantee that spending a lot of money gets you to the World Series.  You can have a  bad homebuilder and give him $600,000 dollars and the house can’t passs inspection, and you can give another homebuilder $600,000 and it’s gorgeous.  It’s the same way in the baseball world, you give some people a lot of money and I don’t care. … There’s a lot a great baseball people, there’s a lot of great peers in this game, and I don’t want you to think I’m negative on them, but there are some that you can give them whatever they want – all the draft picks they want, and all the money they want  and they aren’t going to get it done, and that’s just the reality of the world.    So, it’s a bigger issue of how much money you spend – it’s a talent issue and who is running the ship.  We have a lot of people who are pretty smart here and know what they are doing and what they need to do… when.  I just think we have some very good young talent, and no one should be faulted, Ned or Frank, for having a low payroll.  I understand where the fans are – that they are looking at the big free agents… I will say this though.  One of the people who is mentor of mine and one of the finest general managers there will ever be in the game of baseball is Pat Gillick, and I remember that there was a story written called “Stand Pat Pat” and they were criticizing him because sometimes he didn’t make any trade, but that man had a knack for winning World Series Titles.  Sometimes no move is better than any move.

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44 Responses to “Logan White Interview”

  1. Ken says:

    Fantastic interview Mark. Obviously you have gained Logan’s repect for him to be so open with you. Glad to see honesty coming from Dodger management.

  2. Badger says:

    Dear Mark,

    Good job buddy. Very interesting.

    But, he ignored several calls to talk to you? What if one of them was a call from Ned about an offer for Jason Repko?

    I got a couple of questions, maybe you can help me with them?

    1. on Kuroda, he said “They throw a lot of pitches, and I think that we are not catching them in their best years.”

    If that is true, why did we give him $13 million on the end of his contract at age 35?

    2. Do the Dodgers have a sports psychologist on staff?

    If not, they should.

    3. I could teach Broxton the circle change. It just isn’t that difficult to learn. I was still throwing it in the MABL at age 50 and my hands aren’t nearly as big as Jonathan’s. The fact he doesn’t have one by this time is ridiculous.

    4. Do the Dodgers have a mandatory off season conditioning program? And if not why not? And if so, who sets it up, who supervises it and does it include yoga and pilates or at the very least some serious daily stretching. Does it inclusde nutritional counseling?

    5. Though I get the analogy, I find the home building idea a bit lacking. Sorry, don’t mean to be anal about this, but I was an assistant to a builder in Napa and I know from experience that every step in the process has several pair of eyes on it. Attention to detail is a must or you get busted early and often. The idea he is talking about is to do things like the Twins, Marlins, Rays, A’s ect. do it, and I still believe that is why Frankie first hired DePodesta, but abandoned the paradigm mid-stream. We have been over and over that so no need to do it again here. The Yankees do what they do because the KNOW it gives them the best chance to – a. fill up that stadium and demand huge t.v. money and 2. WIN. Yeah it doesn’t always work, but they sure look good doing it. I see absolutely no reason why the Los Angeles Dodgers cannot use that model, scale it down about $50 million, and put a very entertaining talent laden veteran team on the field. They own their own stadium and there is enough money around L.A. to support that idea.

    6. Draft and develop starting pitching. They can come up and pitch out of the pen to get their feet wet, but every one that is drafted should be drafted to pitch 7 innings every 5th day. Teach them early to throw strikes. Just my humble opinion.

    7. With a swing like Loney came into the big leagues with, at 6’3″ 220 pounds, why in the world isn’t he strong enough to hit a ball 375 feet 25 times a year? Everyone of us hit home runs in high school, (I am assuming we did) and I had 5 of them in about 80 at bats, all of them went at least 350, and I only weighed 165 pounds. If I were as big as James, hitting the ball 380 ft. should be relatively easy I would think. Look how far and how often Barry Bonds hit them!

    OK, bad example. I will stop here.

    Good job Mark. I’ll bet that was a lot of fun for you.

    Love always,

    Your friend……..

    The mild mannered and ever cheerful Badger

  3. Mark Timmons says:

    Who are you and what did you do with Badger?


  4. Mark Timmons says:


    The Dodgers do have a sports psychologist…

  5. A Shot of Haeger says:

    Great job Mark. Very enjoyable interview!!!

  6. lawdog says:

    Dodgers’ ownership issue won’t be resolved until end of season
    A Los Angeles Superior Court commissioner sets date of Aug. 30 for beginning of trial to determine whether Frank McCourt or estranged wife Jamie McCourt owns the team. The trial is expected to last until end of September.

    March 29, 2010)

    By Bill Shaikin
    March 30, 2010 | 7:12 p.m.

    As the Dodgers play in Colorado during the final week of the regular season — perhaps trying to clinch their third consecutive National League West championship — Frank McCourt could be on a witness stand in Los Angeles.

    The trial to determine who owns the Dodgers will start Aug. 30, Los Angeles Superior Court Commissioner Scott Gordon ruled Tuesday.

    In balancing a crowded court calendar with the desire for a timely resolution of the Dodgers’ divorce saga, Gordon selected 11 days for trial, scattered over the course of a month. He set Aug. 30-31, Sept. 1, Sept. 3, Sept. 20-22 and Sept. 27-30 for trial.

    Gordon would have 90 days to rule, said Lynn Soodik, a Santa Monica family law attorney. The court thus could announce who owns the Dodgers during the playoffs or World Series.

    Frank and Jamie McCourt would be expected to testify during the trial and attend every session, Soodik said. In what could well be a showdown for the NL West title, the Dodgers play the Rockies at Coors Field on Sept. 27-29.

    Frank McCourt could skip a court session to attend a ballgame but would be well-advised not to do so, said Santa Monica family law attorney Connolly Oyler.

    “That doesn’t have a positive effect on the judge,” Oyler said.

    The issue at trial is the validity of a 2004 agreement that provides Frank McCourt with sole ownership of the Dodgers and Jamie McCourt with sole ownership of the couple’s residential properties.

    Dennis Wasser, an attorney for Jamie McCourt, said there have been settlement discussions regarding spousal support but no discussions regarding the issue of Dodgers ownership.

    In seeking an earlier trial date, Marc Seltzer, an attorney for Frank McCourt, told Gordon, “There’s a crying need to remove the cloud of uncertainty.”

    Frank McCourt had wanted the case over by opening day. The case now figures to last the entire season.

    “It’s a distraction to management,” Seltzer said. “The team on the field is not affected in any way, shape or form.”

    And, he said: “The case will be over before the World Series.”

  7. lawdog says:

    Great interview Mark. eThis interview is of a rare quality iI didn’ expect to find here.

    But why didn’t you follow trough on Carlos Santana? And didn’t Chuck Haeger deserve a question or two?

  8. lawdog says:

    Damn the lack of edit button!

  9. Eric Stephen says:


    This is a great interview. Well done, sir. I’m glad you utilized your eight days at CBR very well. Awesome stuff.

  10. Phil Gurnee says:

    Great job, thanks for asking some qreat questions.

  11. Mark Timmons says:

    Thanks, guys!


    Rare quality? Implying my quality is usually “poor?”


  12. troyfromwv says:

    That was a fascinating read. I really enjoyed it.

    Hope to see some Dodger fans in Pittsburgh next Wednesday and Thursday.

  13. Bill Russell says:

    I haven’t had much time to talk or think baseball for a while. I’m starting a new business and well you know how that goes. I am sorry to see Jason Repko go but sometimes hard decisions must be made. Great interview by Mark and there’s some really good discusses in here today. Keep up the good work everyone.

  14. Bill Russell says:

    Edit button please

  15. Badger says:

    The Dodgers do have a sports psychologist? Sit him down with McD.

    What about a nutritionist? Yoga? Stretching? Off season condidtioning program – hey, if I am paying a guy several million, I want him with a trainer 4 days a week a month before Spring Training – better yet, put them all on the P90X program and we would less likely have any injuries.

    I was with that Shaikin article until this – “It’s a distraction to management,” Seltzer said. “The team on the field is not affected in any way, shape or form.”

    Nonsense. A distraction to management has to have a trickle down effect, and the very fact that payroll has been reduced by 30% screams volumes. We should be ok this year because we have a group of very talented players on the field (lack of starting pitching not withstanding) but this needs to be settled so the players everywhere know who and what up with the Los Angeles Dodgers ownership.

  16. Harold says:

    Good job Mark. Thanks. In the picture above with that hat on you look a lot like Don Newcombe.

    It is impossible to ask all the questions the Dodger faithful would want to ask. You had a good cross section. Logan certainly gave full answers. Good to see Ned relies on their advice. Good deal, bad deal, they are a team, but as Bill says,sometimes hard decisions have to be made.

    I read an article the other day in which Logan was talking about the farm system. He said that in the decades when the Dodgers were competeing and winning, they would have at least 30 players progress out of our system. That is, spend something like at least five years in the majors. In the ninties, we had 12, according to his calculations. His philosophy is that we must build the foundation and add the topping when needed. Couldn’t agree more.

    I liked that explanation as it gives me, at least, some come back when folks say that prospects are just prospects. That they are but the more we can develop the better we will be in the long run. Logan says at least 30 in a decade. That is the nenchmark I will follow. Kinda think he knows quite a bit more than I do.


  17. Harold says:

    “bench mark” maybe.


  18. lawdog says:

    The quality of other posts? Heavens no Mover! The quality of everything found here is of the highest quality! :eek:

  19. Mark Timmons says:


    This IS Don Newcombe, you moron! ;-)

  20. Mark Timmons says:


    That sounded very condescending…


  21. Harold says:

    Here you go Mark!!

    From Jon Weisman: “Dodgers assistant general manager of amateur and international scouting Logan White has certainly opened up in the past couple of weeks. Following the recent two-part series on Baseball Prospectus, White talks at length with Mark Timmons of L.A. Dodger Talk. It’s a great interview, full of insights and really needs to be read by all Dodger fans.”

    I bet Jon wishes he could talk like you.


  22. Mark Timmons says:

    Thanks Harold, I hope you know I was kidding you above. had a nice write up about it too.

  23. Harold says:

    The likeness with Don is uncanny Mark. Now can you start both ends of a double header?


  24. Mark Timmons says:

    I was pretty tanned after 8 days in the Arizona sun, but Don has a better tan.

  25. overkill94 says:

    Congrats on your great skills Badger, but you’re wrong in assuming two things:

    1. Not everyone can learn – or more importantly master – a change-up. I’ve pitched all my life and was never able to get one to work for me. A certain pitcher’s arm action and/or grip can hinder their ability to throw certain pitches.

    2. I played in a pretty competitive high school baseball program and I don’t remember there being more than a dozen or so homers hit by the whole team total (and that was with aluminum bats). Size has some effect on home run hitting ability, but it doesn’t guarantee success.

  26. Mark Timmons says:

    My change-up screamed “HIT ME! HIT ME!”

  27. Ken says:

    Repko’s injury history is being revealed today by the Great One. Will someone explain why Dodger management kept Repko, knowing about his imjuries, and did not keep the 2 Phillies outfielders?

  28. Roger Dodger says:

    Hey folks, I was with Mark 6 of those days — as the official photographer of I took about 1,400 pictures in all.

    You have seen a few here since March 20th when we arrived at Camelback Ranch. I would be glad to make a DVD/CD (whatever) of a bunch of those pictures, and even some really “great ones” over the past several years both at Vero and at the new Arizona location. (I have a Loney AB in Vero I have in my study that is 16 by 20 that is outstanding. Also, that Clayton one in “A” class ball.

    All I would ask is a few $$$ for a mailer, disc cost, and 15 minutes of my time. If several of you would like that, I need to know about beginning to put it together. Just indicate here on the site. Will see if enough want them.

  29. Badger says:

    Why thanks 94. Nice to know somebody is actually listening. But if I can throw a change up, so can a Major League pitcher. Practice. You probably just have a low learning curve. I taught special ed, so, I am sure I could work with you.

    As for home runs, are you kidding me? A dozen on your team with aluminum bats! Wow, that is sad. How far were the fences in your league? Repko had 18 by himself in high school. Were you playing with restricted flight balls? We used wooden bats and we had at least 15 on my team. Had we aluminum bats? – twice as many, easy, maybe more. Those warning track fly balls all fly over the fence with aluminum. How many home runs do you think MLB would have with aluminum? How many kilt pitchers and third baseman too?

    Man, mistaken for an 84 year black man. That had to sting mover.

  30. Badger says:

    You know what, that last sentence didn’t come out like I meant it to. In re-reading, it may have sounded racially insensitive. Since we don’t have an edit button, if anyone is offended, please accept my apology.

  31. Ken says:


    Please let Mark sell the pictures so that he will have some money for an EDIT button.

  32. Badger says:

    Mark is 50. To be mistaken for an 84 year old……. I don’t know, I think that might get to me. But then, I am very sensitive and obviously insecure.

    I’ll pay a couple of bucks so I can have an edit button. Is it really that expensive? Every site I go to has one. And man, am I glad of that.

  33. Brooklyn Dodger says:

    Great, very informative interview.

    The part about Billingsley caught my attention. I recall posting (probably several months ago) that I thought Billingsley’s tough second half last year may have been the result of his winter workout regimen being interrupted by his leg fracture. The fact that he’s in much better shape this year leads me to believe that he’s motivated to have a great year, and has put in the work to achieve it. As always, time will tell.

  34. Mark Timmons says:

    If I am going to be mistaken for an 84 year-old black man, the it should be a giy who has won the rookie of the Year, Cy Young and MVP ALL IN THE SAME YEAR!

    I’ll be him any day!

    … and Badger, I’m 56, but thanks for the compliment.

  35. Harold says:

    Just to be clear Mark – just fun’in ya about the look alike. I met Don Newcombe at Dodger Stadium when we visited there in 1985. I have his autograph. Sorry to highjack the thread and move the conversation away from your interview.

    I do have a question for Logan. It is probably that I simply haven’t enough information. However, it seems to me that our recruiting has moved away from Latin America, which was once one of our strengths, all the way back to Roberto Clemente, where players don’t have to be drafted. Perhaps we are more active in the Orient although I don’t see much of that. The question is, “Why have we moved away from recruiting players in Latin America?”


  36. Mark Timmons says:


    That’s an excellent question. Next interview (in about a month) I’ll ask him.

  37. Ken says:

    Towers will probably not make the team this year.

  38. Roger Dodger says:

    The split team Dodgers look more like a junior high team heading for 6th place in the school district.

    Maybe one of the best pitching staffs today === the Chicago White Sox.

    Wait, I must stop here, the Dodger slugger, A.J. Ellis is up . . . . he is still up . . . he walks. What an eye!!

  39. Mark Timmons says:


    We were schitzo for a minute…

  40. Terry A says:

    Great stuff, Mover.


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