Comments on: Some People Just Love Misery http://www.ladodgertalk.com/2009/12/some-people-just-love-misery/ Don't drink the Kol-Aid - See a Different Game Wed, 08 Feb 2012 20:59:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Kay in L.A. http://www.ladodgertalk.com/2009/12/some-people-just-love-misery/comment-page-1/#comment-19773 Kay in L.A. Sat, 19 Dec 2009 00:04:23 +0000 http://www.ladodgertalk.com/?p=6909#comment-19773 What I said was in a friendly spirit. Your post reveals you to be something of a "B-word," though. What I said was in a friendly spirit. Your post reveals you to be something of a “B-word,” though.

]]> By: Badger http://www.ladodgertalk.com/2009/12/some-people-just-love-misery/comment-page-1/#comment-19744 Badger Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:12:59 +0000 http://www.ladodgertalk.com/?p=6909#comment-19744 I have no problem with a Gold Glove 2b charging out after fly balls. That is his job. It is the outfielders job to call him off, and that is not difficult to do. Now if Hudson doesn't listen, or has a hearing problem, the players need to work that out somehow. The second baseman needs to know that when the outfielder is calling "BALL!" he needs to get the hell out of the way. That whole thing sounds lame to me. As a coach I could deal with it. Put Ethier in a football uniform at practice and see if Hudson listens to him then. He'll get the message. The only place I have read that not offering arbitration was a reasonable move by the Dodgers is right here. It is generally accepted everywhere else that not getting compensated for losing Type A free agents is dumb. There is a reason it was set up the way it was. Are the Dodgers young players still "kids"? These are the guys that have been on two NCLS teams. Kershaw is the only one that maybe can still be called a kid, and he had better finally get to 200 innings next year. Both he and Bills need to start 33 and pitch 6+ in every one of them. I agree that every team every year signs a plethora of pitching in hopes that somewhere in the mix good pitching emerges. We saw the same thing at Spring Training last year. Schmidt, Milton, Estes, Miller, Stultz, Leach, Vargas, Threats, Mazone - who am I missing? And how many of those actually helped out? It will be the same next year. Yeah Carroll should be another Loretta. Can't have enough of them - right? That would be comforting sign if he was added as a bench player. He wasn't. If Harang could give us what he had in '05 through '07 he would be exactly what we need. But his numbers have fallen off each of the last two years. Why? I will say the same thing now that I have been saying the last few years - the Dodgers need to get players that are on their way up, not their way down. A good GM, with permission from a powerful owner, could get that done. We have neither the GM nor the owner. I have no problem with a Gold Glove 2b charging out after fly balls. That is his job. It is the outfielders job to call him off, and that is not difficult to do. Now if Hudson doesn’t listen, or has a hearing problem, the players need to work that out somehow. The second baseman needs to know that when the outfielder is calling “BALL!” he needs to get the hell out of the way. That whole thing sounds lame to me. As a coach I could deal with it. Put Ethier in a football uniform at practice and see if Hudson listens to him then. He’ll get the message.

The only place I have read that not offering arbitration was a reasonable move by the Dodgers is right here. It is generally accepted everywhere else that not getting compensated for losing Type A free agents is dumb. There is a reason it was set up the way it was.

Are the Dodgers young players still “kids”? These are the guys that have been on two NCLS teams. Kershaw is the only one that maybe can still be called a kid, and he had better finally get to 200 innings next year. Both he and Bills need to start 33 and pitch 6+ in every one of them.

I agree that every team every year signs a plethora of pitching in hopes that somewhere in the mix good pitching emerges. We saw the same thing at Spring Training last year. Schmidt, Milton, Estes, Miller, Stultz, Leach, Vargas, Threats, Mazone – who am I missing? And how many of those actually helped out? It will be the same next year.

Yeah Carroll should be another Loretta. Can’t have enough of them – right? That would be comforting sign if he was added as a bench player. He wasn’t.

If Harang could give us what he had in ’05 through ’07 he would be exactly what we need. But his numbers have fallen off each of the last two years. Why?

I will say the same thing now that I have been saying the last few years – the Dodgers need to get players that are on their way up, not their way down. A good GM, with permission from a powerful owner, could get that done. We have neither the GM nor the owner.

]]> By: lawdog http://www.ladodgertalk.com/2009/12/some-people-just-love-misery/comment-page-1/#comment-19743 lawdog Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:14:24 +0000 http://www.ladodgertalk.com/?p=6909#comment-19743 Otherwise, Perfectly is a scumbag! Otherwise, Perfectly is a scumbag!

]]> By: lawdog http://www.ladodgertalk.com/2009/12/some-people-just-love-misery/comment-page-1/#comment-19742 lawdog Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:13:13 +0000 http://www.ladodgertalk.com/?p=6909#comment-19742 Mover--the fact that teams haven't refused to honor the arbitration award--except for the case I ,mentioned before Ken nailed it down, is irrelevant. Teams have that power. The fact they haven't used the power only indicates that most owners want to keep players they've offered arbitration. Show me where Ken was wrong and I'll apologize for taking this stand. Mover–the fact that teams haven’t refused to honor the arbitration award–except for the case I ,mentioned before Ken nailed it down, is irrelevant. Teams have that power. The fact they haven’t used the power only indicates that most owners want to keep players they’ve offered arbitration.

Show me where Ken was wrong and I’ll apologize for taking this stand.

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