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The Rats Aren’t Jumping Off The Ship

The Rats Aren’t Jumping Off The Ship

LOS ANGELES – The 2009 National League West Division Champion Los Angeles Dodgers today announced that their entire Major League coaching staff will return for the 2010 season.

Led by manager Joe Torre, the staff has guided the Dodgers to two straight National League West Division titles and two consecutive National55960399 League Championship Series. General Manager Ned Colletti made the announcement.

The coaches: Larry Bowa – Third Base Coach (third season) Mariano Duncan – First Base Coach (fifth season) Rick Honeycutt – Pitching Coach (fifth season) Ken Howell – Bullpen Coach (third season) Don Mattingly – Hitting Coach (third season) Manny Mota – Coach (31st season) Jeff Pentland – Instructor (third season) Bob Schaefer – Bench Coach (third season) Bowa will enter his fifth straight season as a third base coach for Torre and his third with Los Angeles.

 The 2010 season will be Bowa’s 45th in professional baseball as a player, coach or manager. The California native and longtime Phillies’ shortstop will be inducted into the Philadelphia Sports Hall of Fame along with Dodger Special Advisor to the Chairman Tommy Lasorda this week.

Duncan played for the Dodgers from 1985-87 and 1989 was inducted into the Dominican Sports Hall of Fame in 2008. The San Pedro de Macoris native first joined the Dodgers as the first base coach in 2006.

Honeycutt will enter his fifth consecutive season as the Dodgers’ pitching coach and last year his staff led the Major Leagues with a 3.41 ERA. Since he took over the reigns in 2006, Los Angeles has posted a 3.88 ERA, which is the best in baseball over that time. In 2009, the Dodgers’ also led the Majors in opponents’ batting average (.233) and finished tied for second with 1,272 strikeouts.

Howell oversaw a bullpen in 2009 that led the Majors with a 3.12 ERA, finishing well ahead of the second-ranked Oakland A’s (3.46). Since Howell came onboard in 2008, the Dodgers’ bullpen ERA is a Major-League best 3.22 and the bullpens’ 999 strikeouts over that time ranks second to the New York Yankees (1,006).

Mattingly, who officially became the Dodger hitting coach at the 2008 All-Star break, will return for his second full season. In 2009, the club hit .270, which tied them with the New York Mets for tops in the National League. The Dodgers also led the National League with 1,511 hits and a .346 on-base percentage.

Schaefer will enter his 30th year in professional baseball, a span that includes seven seasons as a minor league manager (1980-81, 1983-87). Schaefer also twice managed the Kansas City Royals on an interim basis, most recently in 2005. In a game against the Giants in San Francisco this past season, Schaefer’s knowledge of the rare “four-out rule” helped the Dodgers to an extra run in their 3-1 victory.

Mota will enter his 31st season as a coach with the Dodgers and 41st overall in the organization. He donned a Dodger uniform as a player in parts of 13 seasons from 1969-80 and 1982. His tenure as a coach is the longest in Los Angeles Dodger history.

Pentland joined the Dodger organization in 2008 and next year will be his 13th season as a coach on the Major League level. Since he officially joined the coaching staff on July 1, 2008, the Dodgers’ team batting average is .271, which is tied for second in the National League over that time. – From Joe Jareck – Dodgers PR Staff

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37 Responses to “The Rats Aren’t Jumping Off The Ship”

  1. Voldomer says:

    The four-out game was in Arizona, not San Francisco (I was there).

    This continues to be good news for stability of the franchise–Coletti back, the coaches back, Torre wanting an extension. Hopefully potential players will take this as assurance that it really is “business as usual” despite the McCourt follies.

  2. Ken says:

    So if all of the coaches are coming back, will management have the balls to tell the players explicitly that management is of the opinion that the coaches were not the problem in 2009 but rather the players were the problem thus providing a major position for lower arbitration awards and piss of the players in the long run so that when their arbitration is over they will become free agents and leave the Dodgers. In my opinion both the coaches and players made significant mistakes last year.

    Will the coaches provide better coaching in 2010?
    Will the mystery pitch caller call a better game in 2010?
    Will the players listen to the coaches in 2010?
    Will the players stop trying to pull every pitch?
    Will the pitchers learn how to adjust their pitching motion after no more than 3 pitches?
    Will the hitters learn how to raise their batting average with RISP to their overall batting average?

    There is hope that the coaches and players will perform better next year. Who will step up and perform to their abilities next year? Who will work hard this off season?

    Mark my point on the prior post was to say that the divorce will take a very long time, it will be very expensive, I doubt that either of the McCourts have the wisdom to settle without prolonged egotism, and that the conflicting strategies will prolong the agony and its effect upon the Dodger payroll and their ability to keep all of the young players. The longer the divorce process the exponentially greater effect upon the Dodger legacy. Any agent would be felony stupid to sign a long term contract with the Dodgers during the property settlement process unless they expect a downturn in the player’s ability.

  3. Mark Timmons says:


    The Dodgers were the ones who did the release – I believe YOU!

  4. Mark Timmons says:


    I think both sides will push for a QUICK decision on who owns the team. Then, it depends upon who wins…

  5. Mark Timmons says:


    Players want to go where they can win.

    The Dodgers won 95 games this year. Only 2 teams in all of basebnall won more.

    The Dodgers are ranked #5 in Power Rankings for 2010.

    They have some of the best young players in the game, who are entering their PRIME.

    A player who is a Free Agent has to think they can make a difference and be a part of a winner.

    I think the Dodgers can now sign anyone they want!

  6. lawdog says:

    Ken is right. An agent would have to be felony stupid to sign a long term deal with the Dodgers unless it is front loaded or the player is an aging stiff–a geezer 6 months away from total collapse. This has all the earmarks of a 100 million dollar divorce which might take 3 years or more to resolve. But these two children are so arrogant and greedy they may well go bankrupt before giving in an inch on any relevant issue and players with long contracts might not get paid in the end unless MLB pays them. When the wheels come off the wagon. These two morons are not rich enough for a 100 million dollar divorce.

  7. Badger says:

    It is interesting to note that the Dodgers did have a great year when looking at the stats, and they did once again play for the NL Championship so that part of the glass is definitely half full. Like many, I thought this was the year but as you all know I was very concerned about our pitching. It actually held up better than I thought it would, but in the end, the best team in the National League was Philadelphia. The Dodgers were the best first half team but became more or less a .500 club in the second half, including going .500 in the play-offs.

    I don’t think it requires a genius to figure out what it will take to beat them (and the other challengers that will improve) next year. We need an legitimate staff ace and Broxton needs to learn an off-speed pitch. And our hitters need to be there at the end of the year. For the most part, this is still a young team, and they aren’t going to be together much longer. I am still in a wait and see mode with the mcJamies but I don’t see how this can turn out good for the team. However, the eternal optimist Mark seems to think it will be fine. I have known him a long time, and with the exception of his take on Beltre and some of his wild ass trade ideas, I trust his judgment. I hope he is right.

    I still say the Dodgers will be lucky to have a payroll anywhere near what they had this past year. I just don’t see how it can get done. I would think agents out there, all lawyers, will see what is going on and steer their respective clients away from the fire. But again, I have been wrong before and I hope I am wrong about this.

    • Ken says:

      Badger is Brilliant!!

      Come on Mark these stiffs have not agreed upon anything for years. Their egos are too big for a “Quick” settlement. Yes they will “push” for a quick settlement in Thier favor but they will argue for years over what a fair compromise is for both sides. In fact Jamie screwed up by leaving now. She should have waited a few year until the Cable deal is done and the value of the Dodgers is $200 mil higher. In order to correct this mistake she should ask the court order Frank to pay her alimony of $300,000 per month, order Frank to pay half of the mortgages until the community property issues are settled and wait until 2012 to agree to anything. Many California fafmily law judges will order a buiness appraisal for both the date of seperation and the date of the property settlement. No Mark Jamie should wait until 2012 to settle!

  8. lawdog says:

    Cuban would go out to get us the best FAs available at ever position we’re less than strong. Despite the fact that he’d want to be the opening day “starter” and platoon personally with Loney at first base, who could ask for a better owner!

    • Ken says:


      Your writing gets better every day! I always liked the Johnny Carson style of jokes! A fact plus a twist on the end.

  9. GoNzO says:

    I perticularly liked the article that said, “oh, and he pays cash.” I think he’d be a breath of freash air. The deep pockets of Fox while under a single owner O’Malley. We’d really be what Badger always says we should be – the Yankees of the west.

  10. Badger says:

    Aren’t there any local billionaires who would be interested in this team? (Why only east coast interest?)

    If not, bring on the Cuban.

    Interesting point Ken. Jamie stuck it out for nearly 30 years, why the decision to divorce now? She probably could have had her bodyguard and the cable deal too had she played her cards right. Take the $300,000 a month and force the sale of the team – and do it today please.

    Rumors are flying around that Adrian Gonzalez and his $4.5 million salary (talk about a bargain – who signed this guy?) will be dumped as the Pads continue reeling. Some team out there will get rich quick. He hit 36 HR while playing at Petco. In Dodger Stadium? 45 would be a reasonable guess. And I doubt we will even be in the picture.

    Salary dumps in our future? I think we are going to look more and more like the gints every month until this thing is done. Trade everybody for prospects, sign the aging geezers and field a $50 million team for next year while the sale is imminent.

    Come on Mark, tell me again I am wrong. I need to hear it – over and over, please.

  11. Mark Timmons says:

    Give Frank McCourt his props. He bought the Dodgers with creative financing and then improved the product from top to bottom. In 2005, Forbes valued the Dodgers at $424 million in April of this year, Forbes valued them at $722 million. Say what you want, but adding $300,0000,000 to the team value in 4 years is nothing short of amazing!

    I think Frank and Jamie know you buy low (which they did) and sell high. If they start dismatling the team, they will get a fraction of it back. This is precisely the reason why McCourt will contine to spend prudently and keep the Dodgers a growing concern.

    Cuban doesn’t have the cash to buy the Dodgers unless he gets out of the NBA.

  12. Ken says:

    Mark – Read Jamie’s briefs. Frank made all of the bad decisions and Jamie made all of the good decisions! Jamie was the one who increased the value of the team through all of her hard work. Nobody likes Frank, and everybody loves Jamie. Well at least until Frank fired all of Jamie’s hires and the only people lef at Dodger Town are Frank’s hires.


    Promote Dennis Mannion to CEO
    Promote Ned Colletti to President
    Promote Kim Ng to General Manager
    Promote Joe Torre to Director of Protocol

  13. GoNzO says:

    Cuban doesn’t have the cash? The guy is worth 2.3 billion, with a “B” Mavs are worth 403 million. I am positive that the guy should have the down paymentfor the Dogs under his couch. You’re a savvy business man man, come on now.

  14. Badger says:

    “Say what you want, but adding $300,0000,000 to the team value in 4 years is nothing short of amazing!”

    Yeah, it sounds amazing at first look, but, I just checked Forbes and every team’s value has gone up that much. No big deal really.

    Creative financing huh? Well, that is one way to put it. I still say them getting the Dodgers was a big mistake. As Shaiken put it in his column several days ago – the Dodgers retreat is inevitable. How can we hear that the annual expenses Jamie claims she needs to maintain the lifestyle of a baseball owner are greater than the combined salaries of Kemp, James Loney, Clayton Kershaw, Jonathan Broxton and Chad Billingsley and ask to give these people “props”.

    Sorry my man, I am not talked down off the ledge.

    Ken – read Jamie’s briefs? Aren’t they in the back seat of her bodyguard’s limo?

    It’s embarrassing to be a Dodger fan these days. What a joke these people are.

  15. Mark Timmons says:

    Cuban may be worth 2.3, but cash is another issue…

    He can buy the Dodgers, but not for cash.

  16. Mark Timmons says:

    This is a replay of 5 years ago when many of you told me how bad McCourt was and I said you were wrong. You said he would gut the team, not spend the money and kill the Dodgers.





    Sour grapes make your mouth pucker…

    Now you are hoping that somehow you can be vindicated!

    Give it up!

  17. Mark Timmons says:

    When are you guys going to learn?

  18. Mark Timmons says:

    I’m done.

    Say what you want. I’ll remind you again later!


  19. GoNzO says:

    Mark you don’t buy a 42″ LCD TV and not order HD service. You also don’t purchase one of the storied franchises in sports history and not spend to have stars on the team. Anybody that owns a large market team will spend knowing that fans will continue to come.

    While McCOurt has done ok as an owner I still tink his cheapness has gotten in the way as well i.e. Santana for Blake deal. In the end I don’t think McCourt will be able to afford to own the Dogs by himself. I too was wary of McCourts when they financed the majority of the franchise. Look at

  20. Mark Timmons says:

    McCourt has spent so much more money than Moreno (Look at Glendale and the Stadium Improvements). Believe what you want, but that doesn’t make it true.

    Finally, let me ask you: Do you really believe it was just about the money, when they traded Santana? $2 mil was all it was. I believe there’s more to it than that…

  21. KidCuba says:

    The Cincinnati Reds are letting it be known they intend to cut payroll and move players to accomplish this goal.

    One name said to be available is Brandon Phillips. Wouldn’t he be nice at 2nd next season. He’s a solid bat who can give you around a .275 AVE, with 20HR, 80+RBI, 30DBLS, and 20+SB a season. That’s being on a bad team too. I would unload DeWitt and a couple more for Phillips in a heart beat.

    Only draw back that comes to mind regarding Phillips is that he is one of those “flat bill” cap wearers… I hate that. He still would be a nice addition though.

  22. Badger says:

    Not sure where you are getting your information Mark, but your “inside guy” needs to step outside and get some fresh air. Have you read any of the articles that have been posted here?

    Considering how much money the Dodgers have made McCourt, and how they have offered he and his loving, devoted wife a royal lifestyle, he has not put more money into payroll. He put money into the stadium? Yeah, he built some new field level seats, and toilets, but those tickets costs are above what Joe Sixpack can afford. I would imagine he also rebuilt the luxury boxes too. But $15 parking and 9% increase in ticket prices helped pay for those renovations. Jamie went public with some PR comments, but, the truth is, the Dodgers have made money for them, and the good people of L.A. have paid dearly for it:

    “In a vacuum, these comments McCourt appear to show an organization that is in touch with the issues facing fans during these recessionary times in the Los Angeles area. The club locked in ticket prices from last season, and lowered concession costs, a sign, says the Dodgers, that they are doing their part to make going to a game at Dodger Stadium affordable.

    But, when looking at the price of attending a game at Chavez Ravine over the last decade the Dodgers have escalated the ticket prices at a rate far beyond the league average.

    While the cost of an average ticket in MLB has increased an average of 5.7 percent over the last decade, the Dodgers have increased the average ticket price over 9 percent over the same period.”

    And while they did not raise ticket prices last year, they dropped payroll by 20% and bought a couple new multi-million dollar houses.

    The McCourts haven’t paid for anything. The Dodger fans have. And now, they will pay for this divorce.

    As for the team winning, do you really think the McCourts had anything to do with it? They have been all over the map with their “plan” since taking over. First it was Moneyball, then it was what the Giants do (inexpensive vets) then the miracle – Manny was given to us for a prospect that nobody but a few fans wanted around anyway. Most of the players that carried this club are young affordable players. This is a franchise, that if run correctly, should be able to sustain a $130M payroll without stress. If we had an owner that could actually afford to put some of his own money into it, this team could stay at the top until the cable deal came in, then we WOULD be the West Coast Yankees.




    That part of your post is right. Where you placed the blame for this is innaccurate.

  23. Voldomer says:

    I know this really isn’t the subject, but I’m always puzzled by complaints about the Dodgers’ parking and ticket prices. Admittedly the really good seats are expensive, but the others really are not that bad relatively speaking. Compare them to teams in markets of similar sizes (Chicago, NYC) and they are fractions of what those teams charge.

    Personally I think it is pretty dumb to charge for parking at events. That should be built into the cost of business; imagine Wal-Mart or the mall charging for parking (though I know a few malls do). That said, $15 is not so bad. I pay $12 in Milwaukee for baseball games, and $15-20 at St. Louis. The last time I parked at Wrigley (May), the best I could find was $30 in someone’s residential garage. Parking for the U2 concert at Soldier Field was $45; similar events at the United Center are $30. The rate for official parking at Notre Dame football games in South Bend is $45 and up, but locals will let you park in their yard for $15-20. Admittedly folks in Chicago and St. Louis sometimes have public transportation options better than what LA has, but still, Dodger parking is no very expensive on a relative scale.

    If McCourt essentially sold Santana for 2M, that stinks, and it certainly appeared he wanted to work on the cheap in the DePodesta era. Coletti has spent relatively freely (if not always wisely, though I recall cheering on most of the deals), however, and I can’t imagine how McCourt could be ripped for being tight in recent years. The divorce could change things, but again, I can’t imagine Torre wanting to enlist for a longer term if he thought the roster was going to be pinched.

  24. Ken says:

    The Dodger parking is very bad unless you know what time to arrive and where to park. The last game that I went to the attendence was about 45,000 and we left in the bottom of the 9th, just after Manny made an out in a close game, and we were on the freeway in less than 5 minutes.

    Mark – The rumors coming from the GM meetings are the opposite of what you are saying so maybe we should all wait before agreeing with you.

    Anyone interested in the rumored Edwin Jackson for George “Pillsbury Dough Boy” Sherrill trade? Add a prospect and the Tigers might make that “Cash Neutral” trade.

    Cuban is an equity only buyer. Unless he can put a consortium together Mark is correct he will not buy the Dodgers, if and when the Family Law Judge allows a sale to happen. Besides, buying the Dodgers would create a nondiversified portfolio which he apparently also has no desire to do.

    I doubt that the Pads will trade Gonzalez. The Pads played very well the second half of the season last year. They should wait and see how many of their young players experinece the sophmore jinx before deciding whether to trade him.

    KC – Nice idea but not “Cash Neutral”.

  25. lawdog says:

    Edwin Jackson for Sherrill? I’d do that in a New York minute!

  26. Badger says:

    Hey Voldy, who owns the parks in NYC, St. Louis and Chicago? Just curious. The Dodgers have owned that stadium for years, so, charging for parking seems superfluous.

    • Voldomer says:

      I agree. As I noted, I think having to pay to park for a ticketed event fundamentally is wrong. But, since we all have to pay, I’m just saying that the Dodgers charging $15 is relatively modest compared to what others charge.

      I suspect the Cubs own what few lots are available at Wrigley.

  27. Mark Timmons says:

    Look at Camelback Ranch, where McCourt spent $30,000,000 more than the ChiSox, who have a Spartan complex. I toured the Dodgers minor league complex and it is First of First Class. So, he’ll spend $30 mil on Camelback but not $2 mil on a prospect, if the team wanted him? Doesn’t make sense to me.

  28. lawdog says:

    He’s a real estate kind of guy wo doesn’t value prospects–even the can’t miss kind!”

  29. Badger says:

    “Doesn’t make sense to me.”

    Does to me. Like the counselor just said, Frank is a real estate guy. That was an investment that made his ownership more valuable. It will pay off later. A player? Just a liability in his eyes. 2 million makes a few payments on his property.

    Did you read Simers interview with Jamie? She said that very thing a few times. It’s right up there ^ – have a look.

  30. Mark Timmons says:

    I guess that settles it!

    It’s over.

    Jamie has it right.

    Oh, by the way, do you start at the bottom and work up when you do your taxes as well?

  31. Badger says:

    OK, good point.

    But, there are always two sides of the story. And since these two talk out of both sides of their mouths that’s four sides. And, throw in the team of lawyers and there are so many stories it will take months to sort it all out.

    But, with Frank’s background, doesn’t it make sense that he would be involved in the real estate end of things? That’s what he knows.

  32. Brooklyn Dodger says:

    Does to me also.

    It’s becoming crystal clear that the Dodgers are more important to Frank McCourt as a real estate investment. He clearly prefers to invest his money in land, brick and mortar, and doesn’t see the value in investing in the product (players) that will bring long term success to the organization. Santana, Kyle Blair, and the inadequate investment on drafted and international players are examples of a policy that will ultimately deplete the pipeline of prospects that feeds the Dodgers, and bring us back to the pre-Logan White era, when the Dodgers had one of the worst farm systems in baseball. Want a reason why the Dodgers haven’t won a championship since 1988, well that’s one of them (probably the biggest).

    Why didn’t we get Cliff Lee at the trade deadline? Could it be that we simply didn’t have the depth of prospects to make the deal? And if we did have the prospects, chances are, making the deal would have left our farm system barren.

    Investing in Camelback Ranch and renovatiing Dodger Stadium are solid investemnts, and bode well for the future strength of the organzation. But relegating player acquisition and player development to second class consideration will lead to long term decay, and attendance that should be be over 4 million per year will shrink to under 3 million. Playoff revenue will also dry up, as will the ability to raise prices to a level that fans are willing to pay.

    First class organizations do EVERYTHING first class, not just SOME things.


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