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		<title>By: Chucky</title>
		<link>http://www.ladodgertalk.com/2009/02/it-wasnt-the-money-it-was-the-manny/comment-page-1/#comment-8087</link>
		<dc:creator>Chucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No I am not ANY HAZE, either purple or Blue.

That article from Rosenthal and the Mark&#039;s latest post sums it up perfectly.  I&#039;m sick of this, Ned needs to move on.  

I will always be a Dodger Fan but have some dignity Dodgers, stop playing the game and get the team together and concentrate of winning a Championship.  I&#039;m starting to lose my respect for the organization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No I am not ANY HAZE, either purple or Blue.</p>
<p>That article from Rosenthal and the Mark&#8217;s latest post sums it up perfectly.  I&#8217;m sick of this, Ned needs to move on.  </p>
<p>I will always be a Dodger Fan but have some dignity Dodgers, stop playing the game and get the team together and concentrate of winning a Championship.  I&#8217;m starting to lose my respect for the organization.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Haze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Haze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Article from Ken Rosenthal that may interest some on the ManRam debacle:

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9172834/Dodgers-have-options,-but-Manny-may-not</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Article from Ken Rosenthal that may interest some on the ManRam debacle:</p>
<p><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9172834/Dodgers-have-options,-but-Manny-may-not" rel="nofollow">http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9172834/Dodgers-have-options,-but-Manny-may-not</a></p>
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		<title>By: Blue Haze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Haze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No I am not Chucky, but he and I hold the same sentiments about what boards should be used for, especially Dodger Fan boards.

Done with you Badger, you have some very serious issues that I hope you can deal with or keep some professional help for, and you have a very convenient (and dishonest) memory. I will skip over your posts, so be a AH all you want. 

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Manny and his agent just didn&#039;t see what was coming around the corner. The Infallible One misplayed his cards and now is paying the consequences for that mistake. The strange thing is, either no owner has any money to sign players (except the Yankees of course) or no owner wants to take the chance of a Bad Manny showing up in his clubhouse. The Infallible One stayed with his tried and true methods of negotiations and didn&#039;t make an adjustment in his MO. When the Dodgers didn&#039;t bite, the Infallible One didn&#039;t have a hand to play (card games are hard to play with no players or dealer at the table, that game is called Solitaire) and Manny got left out in the cold. If it were just about talent, ManRam would have been signed to a long-term deal months ago, but it is more than that, a lot more. He can&#039;t get signed to a long-term deal or a short-term deal, makes you wonder what the Infallible One is whispering into Manny&#039;s ear at this point. I doubt it will happen, but wouldn&#039;t it be funny (funny ha-ha, not funny queer -- Swing Blade) if Manny is still waiting at the altar when ST starts? You never know it could happen, stranger things have happened in this world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No I am not Chucky, but he and I hold the same sentiments about what boards should be used for, especially Dodger Fan boards.</p>
<p>Done with you Badger, you have some very serious issues that I hope you can deal with or keep some professional help for, and you have a very convenient (and dishonest) memory. I will skip over your posts, so be a AH all you want. </p>
<p>_____</p>
<p>Manny and his agent just didn&#8217;t see what was coming around the corner. The Infallible One misplayed his cards and now is paying the consequences for that mistake. The strange thing is, either no owner has any money to sign players (except the Yankees of course) or no owner wants to take the chance of a Bad Manny showing up in his clubhouse. The Infallible One stayed with his tried and true methods of negotiations and didn&#8217;t make an adjustment in his MO. When the Dodgers didn&#8217;t bite, the Infallible One didn&#8217;t have a hand to play (card games are hard to play with no players or dealer at the table, that game is called Solitaire) and Manny got left out in the cold. If it were just about talent, ManRam would have been signed to a long-term deal months ago, but it is more than that, a lot more. He can&#8217;t get signed to a long-term deal or a short-term deal, makes you wonder what the Infallible One is whispering into Manny&#8217;s ear at this point. I doubt it will happen, but wouldn&#8217;t it be funny (funny ha-ha, not funny queer &#8212; Swing Blade) if Manny is still waiting at the altar when ST starts? You never know it could happen, stranger things have happened in this world.</p>
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		<title>By: Badger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Badger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, got it.

From YardBarker:

It’s the end of January and there are three big names left in the outfield free agent class.  Where will they land and how does it impact your fantasy teams?
  
Adam Dunn

Everyone knows Adam Dunn can pound the ball.   In fact he is the only player that I am seeing projected for over 40 homers by every source of projections.  Whether he ends up in Washington, Atlanta, or the Dodgers (supposedly his preferred location), he will hit lots of home runs and hit for a low average.  His projections are .250/40/100/95.  His low batting average normally causes Dunn to fall in drafts.  His ADP is currently 65 with a high of 44 and a low of 96, proving he can really fall almost 3 rounds later than expected cause people are scared of his poor Batting average. 

My Verdict – If you can handle the low batting average he can be a great value pick. He has been dropping in mocks because he is not signed but does anyone think he will not sign somewhere? This is foolish.

Bobby Abreu

Not really sure why he hasn’t been signed either.  Jon Heyman of Sports Illustrated recently pointed out in a article that “Abreu is one of three players in history with a .400 on-base percentage, 300 steals and 200 home runs (Barry Bonds and Rickey Henderson are the others) and one of three with 100 RBIs in each of the last three years (Alex Rodriguez and Albert Pujols are the others)”.  My guess is that the teams most interested in him are also interested in Manny and Dunn so until one of them sign, the other wont either, creating the current stalemate that exists.  If I was a betting man I would say he will end up as either a Dodger or a Met.  He currently has an ADP of 43 going in the 4th round and projected .287/17/95/95/20.

My Verdict – Don’t let the fact that he is not signed yet scare you.  Wherever he ends up, he will produce for his fourth round draft value 

Manny Ramirez

The Mets&#039; fans and many Met players, such as David Wright. are openly hoping for Manny to arrive in New York.  Even their Manager Jerry Manuel has been quoted as saying &quot;To have a shot at managing [him] would be exciting for me.&quot;   Other rumors put him on San Francisco or the with the Dodgers.
No matter where he lands, Manny will do well once he settles down and starts playing baseball.  This is the key to Manny being Manny.  He is an excellent hitter who should be able to produce .300/30/100/100 numbers without a doubt when he puts his mind to baseball.  If he is worried about his 1 year contract or that he being mistreated by his teammates, the team ownership, his manager or the media then Manny is not thinking about baseball.  That’s where the problem lies.   So watch carefully where Manny ends up and if you draft him be prepared for what comes next.  Either you will ride him to a championship or he can help sink your team. 

My Verdict – Manny is too risky of a personality to pick where he should be drafted (early second-round).  If he slips down to the fourth grab him.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, got it.</p>
<p>From YardBarker:</p>
<p>It’s the end of January and there are three big names left in the outfield free agent class.  Where will they land and how does it impact your fantasy teams?</p>
<p>Adam Dunn</p>
<p>Everyone knows Adam Dunn can pound the ball.   In fact he is the only player that I am seeing projected for over 40 homers by every source of projections.  Whether he ends up in Washington, Atlanta, or the Dodgers (supposedly his preferred location), he will hit lots of home runs and hit for a low average.  His projections are .250/40/100/95.  His low batting average normally causes Dunn to fall in drafts.  His ADP is currently 65 with a high of 44 and a low of 96, proving he can really fall almost 3 rounds later than expected cause people are scared of his poor Batting average. </p>
<p>My Verdict – If you can handle the low batting average he can be a great value pick. He has been dropping in mocks because he is not signed but does anyone think he will not sign somewhere? This is foolish.</p>
<p>Bobby Abreu</p>
<p>Not really sure why he hasn’t been signed either.  Jon Heyman of Sports Illustrated recently pointed out in a article that “Abreu is one of three players in history with a .400 on-base percentage, 300 steals and 200 home runs (Barry Bonds and Rickey Henderson are the others) and one of three with 100 RBIs in each of the last three years (Alex Rodriguez and Albert Pujols are the others)”.  My guess is that the teams most interested in him are also interested in Manny and Dunn so until one of them sign, the other wont either, creating the current stalemate that exists.  If I was a betting man I would say he will end up as either a Dodger or a Met.  He currently has an ADP of 43 going in the 4th round and projected .287/17/95/95/20.</p>
<p>My Verdict – Don’t let the fact that he is not signed yet scare you.  Wherever he ends up, he will produce for his fourth round draft value </p>
<p>Manny Ramirez</p>
<p>The Mets&#8217; fans and many Met players, such as David Wright. are openly hoping for Manny to arrive in New York.  Even their Manager Jerry Manuel has been quoted as saying &#8220;To have a shot at managing [him] would be exciting for me.&#8221;   Other rumors put him on San Francisco or the with the Dodgers.<br />
No matter where he lands, Manny will do well once he settles down and starts playing baseball.  This is the key to Manny being Manny.  He is an excellent hitter who should be able to produce .300/30/100/100 numbers without a doubt when he puts his mind to baseball.  If he is worried about his 1 year contract or that he being mistreated by his teammates, the team ownership, his manager or the media then Manny is not thinking about baseball.  That’s where the problem lies.   So watch carefully where Manny ends up and if you draft him be prepared for what comes next.  Either you will ride him to a championship or he can help sink your team. </p>
<p>My Verdict – Manny is too risky of a personality to pick where he should be drafted (early second-round).  If he slips down to the fourth grab him.&#8221;</p>
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